Hi Dave,

On 8 Mar 2009, at 22:04, Dave butlerdi wrote:

It looks like this

http://rubyonrails.org/ecosystem

Very inclusive, giving a wide range of optios, and showing off many of the
possible support options available. I think that as a means
of garnering support for a technology this is far better than a single
startup.

I don't see why we can't set this up as well. At the moment, we only
have the "In The Wild" wiki page which is less fancy and is not exactly
the same thing, but CouchDB is not Rails (just yet :-).


Again, not adverse to commercialisation, as there are many firms that
require support, however the name and the manner in which it has been done is as I said before, in my opinion counter productive to the promotion of the
project to a wide range of developers and users alike.

We hoped to be judged "good mannered" by discussing this publicly
instead of presenting a situation set in stone*. Given that we replied to
the naming issue rather immediately, why do you think our plans are
counter-productive? I hope we can clear your doubts.

*note that couchdb.com still redirects to couchdb.apache.org

Cheers
Jan
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On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Dean Landolt <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Dave butlerdi <[email protected]> wrote:

Was quite suprised to see CouchDB Ltd on the slides from the Hadoop
meeting
in Berlin. Was unable to get up there but really think that this is a bad
move.


I work for a company *very *unfriendly to (rather, more unfamiliar with) open-source. Having commercial entities behind specific software projects lends them a legitimacy to many people. If you're arguing that CouchDB Ltd. may be an endorsement or misleading name, that's one thing, but I fail to
see the poor taste behind announcing any and all commercial endeavors
behind
couch.



You are an Apache project and this just seems counter productive. I also think that several other projects have become entailed of this type of
behaviour and had problems with Apache in the end.


Can you give an example? As an IP geek I'm always interested in reading
about how these kinds of things go wrong.



I do not commit, not am I interested in commercialising my experience
with
the product,  but use Couch. However, to use the project name for
commercail
gain by a few does seem wrong. Why not follow the Ruby/Rails example and
set
up a community effort for the provision of services under the CouchDB
name.


Can you expound on what you mean by that? I'm unfamiliar with the rails community -- what does a "community effort for the provision of services"
look like?




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