This should be on dev@ I think, so moving there.

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On 5 Mar 2010, at 19:36, Sebastian Cohnen wrote:

> but back to topic: MoinMoin sucks! It's unbelievably slow, throws 500s all 
> the time and don't forget the syntax - pure hell when you seriously want to 
> work with it. I've talked with Jan and he has been recently thinking of a 
> replacement.

From an old blog post:

We were discussing Apache infrastructure, and I was joking about how much I 
hated JIRA. Robert Newson suggested that having to pick between JIRA and 
Bugzilla was Hobson's choice,  but I countered with Sophie's choice, and his 
riposte was Morton's fork. When we were cautioned to avoid Buridan's ass, I 
commented "that's what she said!"

> As a first step we want to suggest using Markdown

Just use HTML, it is way simpler.

> and git from now on - at least for documentation purposes

> Once we (or better I) have enough translated from MoinMoin to Markdown we 
> could start linking from the wiki to Github (as it renders markdown nicely 
> for you).

Nice idea, but absolutely not.

Official project documentation should be on couchdb.apache.org and the wiki 
must be on apache infrastructure. Unofficial stuff, like our O'Reilly book, is 
fine elsewhere, but that's all it can be - as far as I understand the situation.

> We think that this approach is likely to work best as an interim solution 
> before we have a ass-kickin' couch-wiki solution. Once that's done, we can 
> easily import the markdown stuff. or maybe markdown+git works so well, so 
> that it stays the preferred way - who knows? ;)

Avoid Markdown! It solves nothing and introduces problems.

> This is only a suggestion and we really want your opinion. I think the 
> rudimental requirements are quite clear:
> * a faster and more reliable system
> * very easy to contribute
> * easy and easy to learn syntax
> * being able to work offline (at least for me that would be awesome)
> * easy way to do some QA

Whatever we choose must run on ASF infrastructure if it is to be considered 
official.


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