On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 20:36, Sebastian Cohnen
<[email protected]> wrote:
> but back to topic: MoinMoin sucks! It's unbelievably slow, throws 500s all 
> the time and don't forget the syntax - pure hell when you seriously want to 
> work with it. I've talked with Jan and he has been recently thinking of a 
> replacement. As a first step we want to suggest using Markdown and git from 
> now on - at least for documentation purposes. Once we (or better I) have 
> enough translated from MoinMoin to Markdown we could start linking from the 
> wiki to Github (as it renders markdown nicely for you). We think that this 
> approach is likely to work best as an interim solution before we have a 
> ass-kickin' couch-wiki solution. Once that's done, we can easily import the 
> markdown stuff. or maybe markdown+git works so well, so that it stays the 
> preferred way - who knows? ;)

Well, we use MoinMoin for Mercurial; it's not slow and doesn't throw
500s, though. I would suggest that that has to do with Apache's
specific setup/infra.

> What do you think? You can ping me on IRC (tisba) anytime, but the ml should 
> be the place, where the discussion takes place (so that everyone can 
> participate).

I also in the past added some things/structure to the wiki, but I
agree that it lacks structure and doesn't always work well if you're
looking for something. Personally, I rather like Sphinx, the package
that Python (and many Python packages) use for their docs. On the
other hand, a wiki has a much lower bar for contribution. I don't
think Markdown or reST (which Sphinx uses) are fundamentally better
than the wiki markup.

Yes, the wiki needs more maintenance, but no, I don't think the
initial impulse to start over with some proprietary system wil result
in better docs anytime soon.

Cheers,

Dirkjan

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