Members present: Noah, jez0990, jan____, benoitc, mikewallace, garren, rnewson, dch, daleharvey, Kxepal
---------------- Meeting summary: ---------------- 1. Preface a. last week's minutes from http://wilderness.apache.org/archives/couchdb-meeting-06_02_2013-862.html (dch, 1) 2. 1.3.0 3. docs 4. last minutes 5. fauxton 6. 1.3.0 a. Noah will be Release Manager for 1.3.0 \o/ (dch, 6) -------- Actions: -------- - Noah will be Release Manager for 1.3.0 \o/ (dch, 14:34:51) IRC log follows: # 1. Preface # 14:01:58 [rnewson]: hello. 14:02:25 [jan____]: topic: 1.3.0 14:02:35 [Kxepal]: topic about docs 14:02:35 [dch]: #link last week's minutes from http://wilderness.apache.org/archives/couchdb-meeting-06_02_2013-862.html 14:03:18 [jez0990]: howdy 14:03:25 [dch]: hi everybody, rise and shine, it's meeting time!! Noah benoitc drsm79 garren Humbedooh sbisbee any other topics to share? 14:04:10 [dch]: ok shall we start. # 2. 1.3.0 # 14:05:08 [dch]: Has a release manager been accepted? 14:05:15 [dch]: erm selected? 14:05:56 [jan____]: this is between rnewson and Noah 14:06:08 [Noah]: i am happy to do it 14:06:15 [rnewson]: I'm happy to let Noah do it 14:06:23 [rnewson]: so no jelly wrestling to settle this one. 14:06:23 [rnewson]: sadly 14:06:23 [jan____]: EOT 14:06:30 [Noah]: i am happy to accept payment from rnewson for doing it 14:07:15 [dch]: we are blocker free http://s.apache.org/couchdb_130_blockers 14:07:26 [dch]: anything else for 1.3.0 other than getting in a serious amount of jelly? # 3. docs # 14:08:30 [dch]: Kxepal: all yours mate! 14:08:45 [Kxepal]: dch: thanks 14:08:53 [Kxepal]: sorry, if I'll be slooow /: 14:09:15 [jan____]: take your time 14:09:15 [Kxepal]: first about COUCHDB-1658 - it's should be very helpful for 1.3 release 14:10:38 [Noah]: Kxepal: why? 14:10:38 [dch]: " Redirect to online docs if local aren't available " & comes with patch. 14:11:00 [Noah]: COUCHDB-1658 14:11:08 [Noah]: ah cool 14:11:31 [dch]: Kxepal: for the official releases we'll be distributing a pre-built docs branch anyway. So presumably we are talking about those people who build from git but don't have sphinx etc available. 14:11:45 [Noah]: i dont see the point of this patch tbh 14:12:15 [Noah]: hmm - i guess if it's just a link thats fine. the thought of replicating the docs sounds bonkers 14:12:30 [jan____]: yeah, this is only useful for people who build from git and in the past we determined that this isnât critical for 1.3.0 14:12:31 [Noah]: i am not sure i like the auto-matic redirect. a simple link might be better 14:12:32 [jan____]: to which I still agree 14:12:45 [jan____]: no need to hold off the release for this,a s the release will include docs 14:13:03 [Kxepal]: ok, thanks. second question is about docs restructuring 14:13:15 [Kxepal]: Current one http://docs.couchdb.org/en/latest/ is good, but a little confused for users. I'd tried to write mail first about such proposal, but I don't like to propose something without doing something. So that's the idea about restructuring: http://kxepal.iriscouch.com/docs/1.3/index.html 14:15:02 [Kxepal]: few articles are borked now since I'd tried to also track 1.2/1.1/1.4 releases and lacked of time, but I'm able to finish 1.3 version in next two days. 14:15:11 [Kxepal]: is it real to have such docs in 1.3? 14:15:23 [Noah]: Kxepal: id feel more comfortable if we punt this until after 1.3 14:15:30 [Noah]: we're three months late at this point 14:15:46 [dch]: Kxepal: thanks this looks like a huge improvement. Some pieces might be better outside the release branches tho (e.g. couchapp tools perhaps). 14:15:59 [dch]: but I'm +1 on leaving this til post 1.3.x. 14:16:13 [jan____]: Kxepal: this looks great! 14:16:21 [jan____]: but +1, letâs ship 1.3.0 as is 14:16:21 [Kxepal]: dch: may be, but it's also question about what user expects to see in docs 14:16:24 [Noah]: Kxepal: agreed with dch - this looks very good. my *only* concern is delaying 1.3 14:16:28 [dch]: we can still put additional commits / docs into master or the 1.3.x branch after the release and they will be built & shown up on the web. 14:16:28 [jan____]: and then get the changes in 14:16:43 [Noah]: Kxepal: would you be interested in helping me integrate CouchDB: The Definitive Guide too at some point? 14:17:15 [Kxepal]: Noah: sure! that was my first idea, but I throw it away since I don't know about licenses issues that may come with it 14:17:28 [Noah]: Kxepal: legal is fine. we're gonna do it. 14:18:07 [Kxepal]: Noah: ok, so no delay and no rush from my side. may be it's will be even better to have it with 1.3.1 14:18:28 [dch]: I'm happy to help, esp if somebody project manages my arse and says "this chapter this week". 14:18:58 [dch]: Kxepal: great job though, there are lots of improvements all the way through that! Many thanks. 14:19:13 [dch]: Kxepal: any other stuff for #docs then? 14:19:30 [Kxepal]: dch: only about 1.1/1.2 branches 14:19:50 [Kxepal]: I keep tracking them, but where to host they? 14:20:45 [jan____]: can we push them to the readthedocs? 14:21:05 [Kxepal]: need some point as git repo for example 14:21:15 [rnewson]: the book needs a fair amount of updating iirc 14:21:27 [dch]: Kxepal: best send a short note to the dev@ list for that. I can't see a problem in keeping them in 1.1.x and 1.2.x branches as .rst files, and relying on rtd to clean up & format. I don't think we'll need more than just a handful of conf.py settings. 14:22:10 [Kxepal]: dch: ok, leaving this topic on after meeting summary 14:22:33 [dch]: Noah: anything re the Guide? or just a passing mention? 14:22:33 [jan____]: rnewson: yeah +1, our hope is that that happens if we fold it in 14:22:49 [benoitc]: damned i didn't realized the meeting was now 14:23:53 [Noah]: dch: just a passing mention - this is post 1.3 14:24:00 [dch]: Noah: sure 14:24:30 [dch]: OK, so a couple of items from last weeks -- http://wilderness.apache.org/archives/couchdb-meeting-06_02_2013-862.html 14:24:38 [dch]: COUCHDB-523 # 4. last minutes # 14:25:02 [rnewson]: jan____: hm, the book form feels like it needs a lot more focus than community docs, but I demur. I could work with you to update it for a 2nd revision or whatever. might be fun. 14:25:25 [jan____]: rnewson: it needs a proper restructure 14:25:38 [Noah]: rnewson: we'd like to re-publish post-integration 14:25:40 [rnewson]: sure 14:25:45 [Noah]: rnewson: and do a new edition with each major release (imo) 14:25:53 [jan____]: rnewson: woud love to tag-team that, and then encourage the docs team to help fil in th blanks 14:26:03 [dch]: aye small incremental change rather than a 2 year tsunami 14:26:08 [jan____]: re 523: bump to 1.4. or later 14:26:09 [dch]: +1 14:26:31 [dch]: COUCHDB-1654 was resolved many thanks jan____ and all 14:26:45 [dch]: COUCHDB-1654 14:27:23 [dch]: and fauxton came onboard with a whole raft of people - kudos chewbranca garren mikewallace drsm79 ! 14:27:32 [Noah]: \o/ 14:27:40 [garren]: cheers 14:27:53 [mikewallace]: ACTION waves 14:27:53 [dch]: Any further items? 14:28:15 [Kxepal]: chewbranca: by the way, about last minutes, I'd promised you some docs for benchmarking. they are still on reviewing by our security dept. to let not leak something important. hope that will finish on next week. sorry for delay ): 14:28:15 [garren]: Can I mention a quick fauxton item? 14:28:45 [dch]: Kxepal: no problem. Also I realised we can use npm repo for this too. Glad to hear you're getting things sanitised. 14:28:45 [dch]: garren: shoot # 5. fauxton # 14:29:30 [daleharvey]: btw the people working on puton, the admin for pouchdb are going to start working on / with fauxton 14:29:38 [garren]: I'm looking for people with some Responsive design skills. We might to make Fauxton a little more responsive. I've done some basic work but need people that are better at that than me. 14:29:45 [garren]: daleharvey: awesome. 14:29:53 [dch]: daleharvey: great news! 14:30:23 [daleharvey]: I will send an introduction since they will likely have a few questions if thats cool 14:30:26 [dch]: we should tweet that, see if we can interest somebody to join in. 14:31:23 [garren]: I can send a mail to @dev and think that might be a better starting point. 14:31:38 [dch]: garren: you want to send a note to dev@ asking about that then? 14:31:46 [garren]: yes sure 14:31:53 [dch]: if there's no further topics, let's call this a wrap. 14:32:00 [jan____]: +1 on tweeting about getting designers to help. 14:32:23 [dch]: jan____: can you do the honours on that from @couchdb ? 14:32:31 [jan____]: sure 14:32:52 [jan____]: once we can point to an easy "how to contribute" 14:33:01 [dch]: right. 14:33:53 [dch]: ok, we're done -- thanks everybody! 14:34:12 [dch]: Noah: I'll topic back to 1.3.0 and add an action for you as RM ok? # 6. 1.3.0 # 14:34:51 [dch]: #action Noah will be Release Manager for 1.3.0 \o/ 14:34:56 [jan____]: woot!
