Hi All, We have been working on setting up Slack. We have a slack - irc bridge in place. While we are testing the slack bridge, it points to #couchdb-slack on irc. The slack account is https://couchdb.slack.com, if you have an apache email, you can login. Otherwise we have a sign up page here https://couchdb-stbqathzdi.now.sh/ to get an invite. I have a pull request for adding a sign up form on the couchdb homepage https://github.com/apache/couchdb-www/pull/21
I would love some feedback on this before we announce it, merge the website and point the irc bridge to #couchdb. So please join #couchdb-slack or sign up for slack and let us know how it goes. Cheers Garren On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Robert Samuel Newson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm equivocal on the proposal (and I'm a long-time user of IRC and Slack) > so I won't vote ... yet. > > Instead of voting, perhaps I can suggest a path forward? > > We (PMC) will first evaluate the available privacy controls of the free > tier and determine if an appropriate balance can be struck. I believe > message retention policy can be configured on a per channel basis and that > users can delete their own past messages (It's possible to remove that > ability or restrict it). > > Joan speaks for many who would participate less, or not at all, if a > permanent record of their words were being maintained. It's just as clear > to me that there are many people who never get involved in CouchDB, or try > to but feel excluded by our mailing list or IRC barriers (they are barriers > when the alternative is a website). > > Now, a free Slack team has limited search ability to the last 10,000 > messages per channel anyway, so it's a valid question whether that is > sufficient even if we were to allow it (_retention_ is unlimited but you > have to move to paid tier to get at it). > > So, we should be clear what we expect Slack to do for us. It won't replace > the mailing lists, it won't replace any blog posts or documentation, and it > won't replace stackoverflow or sites like it that exist to help users find > already published solutions to their problems. > > What it can do is make it easier for people to chat about CouchDB in > more-or-less realtime. I'd say it could be do a bit better than that, > relative to IRC, through the use of Slack posts and message pinning, > allowing us to prominently display introductory material or howto's, etc. > > I think we at least owe the suggestion a trial period, after the > evaluation I mentioned at the top, but we should be clear what we expect > from this effort, and define what a successful trial would look like. > > B. > > > > On 23 Feb 2017, at 20:53, Jan Lehnardt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > FWIW, Slack allows per channel disabling of search. > > > > This would negate the benefit of a more accessible problem/solution > > archive, but I feel StackOverflow has taken that on anyway, so I > > wouldn’t object to make use of that switch, if it makes this > > proposal more inclusive. > > > > Best > > Jan > > -- > > > > > > > >> On 23 Feb 2017, at 20:56, Joan Touzet <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> I'm -0 on this. > >> > >> We have a specific history around IRC that is important to retain, > >> specifically the IRC channels have never been logged. I feel strongly > >> about not retaining log history from our discussion area; it gives > >> people the ability to be more free about their discussions without > >> worry about being on the record. > >> > >> Slack as a host (whether you use IRC or Slack as the chat gateway) > >> does away with that, at least partially, and I think it will be > >> for the worse. > >> > >> I will probably drop out of chat if this happens. > >> > >> -Joan > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "David Squier" <[email protected]> > >>> To: "Martin Rudolph" <[email protected]>, [email protected] > >>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:56:59 AM > >>> Subject: Re: RFC CouchDB Slack channel > >>> > >>> Would also love to see this! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017, at 04:35 AM, Martin Rudolph wrote: > >>> > >>>> +1 for Slack and btw. I think there is a http://www.discourse.org/ > >>> > >>>> <http://www.discourse.org/> plugin for slack… > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> Cheers > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> Martin > >>> > >>>>> Am 23.02.2017 um 13:28 schrieb Dan Santner <[email protected]>: > >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> I'm in for that!! > >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> On Feb 23, 2017, at 1:22 AM, Garren Smith <[email protected]> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> Hi All, > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> I would like create a slack channel for the CouchDB community. > >>>>>> IRC > >>>>>> is often > >>>>>> considered a barrier to entry for people wanting to ask > >>>>>> questions > >>>>>> and learn > >>>>>> about CouchDB. Slack is a lot easier and less intimidating to > >>>>>> get > >>>>>> started > >>>>>> with. When we do this, we would setup a IRC <-> Slack bridge. > >>>>>> So that > >>>>>> people on slack can communicate to people on IRC. So if you > >>>>>> prefer > >>>>>> IRC you > >>>>>> can still use it. > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> The best success story for this model is the PouchDB community, > >>>>>> they have a > >>>>>> slack channel with a bridge that links the IRC channel. And the > >>>>>> community > >>>>>> has really grown significantly since this has been implemented. > >>>>>> I > >>>>>> know the > >>>>>> Hoodie team also has something like this and it has also worked > >>>>>> well. > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> I would like to do the same, with a slack channel with two rooms > >>>>>> that then > >>>>>> have a bridge back to #couchdb and #couchdb-dev. > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> Would everyone be ok with this? Could we trial it for 3 - 4 > >>>>>> months > >>>>>> and see > >>>>>> how it goes? > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> Cheers > >>> > >>>>>> Garren > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> Apache CouchDB PMC > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > -- > > Professional Support for Apache CouchDB: > > https://neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/ > > > >
