Joan, my tone again made you unhappy. I feel it from your response, and I’m
really sorry.

Anyway, the argument stands. Leaking CouchDB instance IPs to half-dozen
places, and trusting that places because ‘what can go wrong, they are good
guys’ is at least a strange attitude.

And I still think that a newsfeed on subdomain should have its own favicon.
Yes, it should.

> Why didn't you bring this up sooner?

I did, 2 month ago.

> The absolute best way you could *HELP* address this is to code a fix.

I have another CouchDB admin panel to maintain, sorry. And anyway, I think
the button/iframe should be removed in favor of direct link to newsfeed at
the bottom of left panel.

ermouth


чт, 27 авг. 2020 г. в 22:12, Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org>:

> This email stuck with me overnight, and I want to address why. ermouth,
> your attitude in this email was poor, and I'd like to give you the
> opportunity to revise it.
>
> On 2020-08-26 6:45 p.m., ermouth wrote:
> >> The blog is controlled by the CouchDB PMC. No one outside of the PMC or
> > who they authorize has access to it.
> >
> > This is about wordpress server where the blog lives.
>
> Why didn't you bring this up sooner? Why wait until now? This doesn't
> give anyone the chance to address your concerns, and furthermore, comes
> across as arguing in bad faith.
>
> > The server is
> > maintained so impressively,
>
> Actually, it is. It's hosted at wordpress.org. I would expect them to do
> the absolute best job of hosting WordPress, wouldn't you?
>
> > that shows default wordpress favicon for years
>
> Because it's run at wordpress.com. So what? I don't actually know if we
> can customize the favicon there, but honestly, given they provide the
> service to us for free, I have zero objections to them using the favicon
> as a teeny tiny bit of advertising for another open source project.
>
> How is the presence or absence of a favicon any indication of whether or
> not the server is being managed well? This is arguing in bad faith.
>
> > and responds with x-hacker header, promoting jobs aggregator.
>
> For the company that provides us with free blog hosting.
>
> The same thing is over at docs.couchdb.org for readthedocs.org, and no
> one's ever complained about that - arguably, that site gets more clicks
> than the blog does.
>
> > It implies an
> > obvious question about how reliable is the server in terms of injections
> > and logs protection.
>
> Now that you know the above, do you still want to make this argument?
>
> > Also the blog pings gravatar, not good.
>
> For its own content, yes. And I get that you don't want to leak the IP
> address of standalone CouchDBs - that is a valid concern, to which two
> options have been proposed. The absolute best way you could *HELP*
> address this is to code a fix.
>
> > If you don't want to display it, don't click on it, and the iframe won't
> >
> > This is not how things are protected, and I know that you know about it.
>
> This isn't how you treat people who run the community you claim to
> participate in. Nor is this the first time you've acted this way towards
> *volunteer developers*.
>
> Kindly choose your words more carefully, and think ahead about how to
> make a meaningful contribution here. Complaining endlessly is not
> earning you any merit, and the tone you've taken actually does you a
> disservice. If you push this attitude any farther, you're liable to end
> up in people's killfiles / junk mail folders...or worse.
>
> -Joan "PMC hat on" Touzet
>

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