Hi Boson,
at the moment there is not much individual interest in collaborating,
possibly because they are not very clear about the idea I have proposed. In
any case, we are discussing the creation of a space for it [1].

For my part I am going to create a test page that will serve as a
demonstration of what I would like to do, as soon as I have it I will share
it so that anyone can give their opinion. I'm hoping that by seeing the
structure of the page there will be more interest.


[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r75eb3930f4d730d586a94f3492cde2a9e6ac9df5e10d323c5f6edcac%40%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
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Javi Roman


On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 3:00 PM Bonson Mampilli <bonso...@yahoo.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Hello Javi and Peter,
> I shall be very happy to collaborate and help in this.
>
> Regards,Bonson Sebastian MampilliMy LinkedIn
> My Google Scholar
>
>
>     On Monday, 3 May, 2021, 11:28:56 pm IST, Javi Roman <
> jroman.espi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 6:37 PM Peter Abramowitsch <
> pabramowit...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Javi,
> >
> > I'm a long term ctakes user and contributor who has worked in various
> > professional, incubator, and standards-creating environments for
> > healthcare.  I like your idea in theory, but I see an on-the-ground issue
> > with a specific health oriented section of Apache - and that is a lack of
> > content.  Unless I have missed something, cTakes is the only mature
> Apache
> > project in this space - it is not as if there are a set of domain-related
> > projects in this space waiting to be promoted.
> >
>
> With lesser software there are foundations that are putting the focus on
> health [1] , to promote the association and join forces in something as
> laudable as health. My original idea is based on public movements in Europe
> for the promotion of Big Data and health [2]. If we take into account that
> innovation in Big Data is in the open source and also the main organization
> in Big Data is the ASF, this together with a really important project
> focused on health (Apache cTAKES + Apache UIMA + Apache OpenNLP).
>
> [1] https://www.lfph.io/
> [2] https://www.bigmedilytics.eu/
>
>
> > There would also be something materially different about a Healthcare
> > specific component of Apache - which is not to say it isn't a valid idea,
> > but it is worth discussion.  The difference is that most all of the
> > projects in Apache are embedded in the information technology domain and
> > its challenges - storage, search, management, presentation etc - but tend
> > to be agnostic with regard to the information content over which the
> Apache
> > technology is implemented.
> >
> > Health, on the other hand is its own specific domain, so the tasks,
> > problems, and solutions here are not just about creation, transport and
> > presentation of health related information, but what the information
> > actually is, how it is used, and by whom.  Here we're talking about
> > clinical informatics and a host of other information spaces that require
> > very high levels of experience and understanding that are tangential to
> the
> > problems of system infrastructure.
> >
>
> I agree that healthcare is a very specialized field with issues beyond pure
> infrastructure technology. But infrastructure is an enabler for
> researchers, scientists and users. One of the ideas I propose (and I'm not
> saying it has to be done, but I think it's good to discuss it) is how a set
> of ASF technologies can give complete solutions focused on health. It's not
> just medical records processing, there is a lot in healthcare today that
> can be modernized (at least in the healthcare system I know).
>
>
> >
> > If I could invent an analogy...  A lot of Apache's software is probably
> > being used in the logistics domain,  warehousing, supply chain
> > optimization, package deliveries and such, but would that be a reason to
> > create an Apache shipping and delivery software presence?
> >
>
> This could be the beginning of similar initiatives, what's wrong with that?
> It is a way to promote ASF projects, with a different approach: How
> different technologies can be integrated to provide solutions to societal
> needs, how open source breaks new ground and catalyzes innovation in all
> sectors.
>
> >
> > So this is my hesitation about endorsing a Health initiative at the
> > moment.  As I've said, it would be a wonderful idea, but the cart is
> > somewhat before the horse in my opinion.  More localized and feasible
> > might be a cTakes user group that goes beyond just this email address.
> >
>
> Thank you very much for your comments Peter, I think this is an exciting
> topic, and the principle can be a place to discuss these ideas, by way of
> exploration. It may come to nothing in the end, or something interesting
> may come out of it, but who knows, I would try something new.
>
> >
> > Regards
> > Peter
> >
>

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