Hi Aki,

I included the information in messageAcknowledge so that the callback could be used either as per-invocation or shared, depending on what the user wants. The simple implementation I mentioned, just counting how many messages have been sent and acknowledged, would be intended for shared use.

  - Dennis

On 02/19/2014 12:58 AM, Aki Yoshida wrote:
hi Dennis,
getting the sequenceId and messageNum to the client sounds good.
the callback remain simple, yet the client can perform more advanced
tasks using this information supplied to the callback.

but why do we have seqId/msgNum for messageAcknowledge? Wasn't your
original callback idea assume a per-invocation object and it has now
become a shared callback object? I thought a per-invocation object is
more practical for the client but I am not sure now, as a shared one
seems to be also practical for some cases.

regards, aki

2014-02-17 22:13 GMT+01:00 Dennis Sosnoski <[email protected]>:
I guess the question is whether we want to duplicate the JMX functionality.
My thought was to keep this callback really simple, but still supply the
essential information (basically, that the message has made it through to
the far end) to the client. I suppose it would be easy enough to add another
method to supply information at the start of the sending process, too:

interface RMCallback {
     void messageAccepted(String seqId, long msgNum);
     void messageAcknowledged(String seqId, long msgNum);
}

This way they'd have all the information to identify the message, and if
they want to take full control over the process they can use this
information through the JMX interface. How does that sound to you?

I can still supply the simple counting implementation that just lets the
client check whether all the messages have been acknowledged yet.

   - Dennis


On 02/17/2014 10:14 PM, Aki Yoshida wrote:
Hi Dennis,

right. It would be useful to make some information conveniently
available to the calling client.

But we might want to provide a callback not just for getting the ack
status but for getting various other WS-RM information such as the
sequence ID, message number and even some control over the messages
and sequences it created?

Or I am not sure if we should give the sequence info back in the
callback and let the client use jmx to get more info and exercise
control over the sequence?

regards, aki

2014-02-14 8:15 GMT+01:00 Dennis Sosnoski <[email protected]>:
It's important for clients using WS-RM to know when all the messages
they've
sent have been acknowledged, because it's not safe for them to terminate
until this has been done. Right now we're able to use JMX to monitor
WS-ReliableMessaging operation and see when messages are acknowledged.
But
this seems overly complex to me, and I'm thinking of adding a simpler
callback mechanism to make it easier.

The basic interface would be something like:

interface AcknowledgementCallback {
      void messageAcknowledged();
}

I could also supply an AcknowledgementCountingCallback implementation
which
would just count how many times it's been called, and define a waitFor(n,
timeout) method on this which would wait until that many messages had
been
acknowledged (or until timed out). That way an instance could be set as a
client property, and the user could just count how many messages they'd
sent
and when they're done call the waitFor() method to make sure they'd all
been
received before the application terminates.

Any objections or better ideas?

Thanks,

    - Dennis

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