Hi Andriy,

Sure, here is a public pom - a few excludes are likely no more needed like
javax ones but overall it is working as expected like that, ie
dependency:tree is minimal and functional:
https://github.com/apache/openwebbeans-meecrowave/blob/master/meecrowave-core/pom.xml#L139

Le mer. 11 nov. 2020 à 23:07, Andriy Redko <[email protected]> a écrit :

> Hey Romain,
>
> I think it is worth the efforts to do housekeeping work and cleanup
> the dependencies. I am not sure we could do this as one big bang change
> but delivering iterative improvements with each release should work. The
> idea with grouping dependencies into separate POMs/BOMs should be
> implementable.
> Do you have examples of the exclusions you have seen people do most often,
> may
> be would could target those first?
>
> AFAIK we try to use optional dependencies whenever possible, indentifying
> which
> modules do not follow and fixing that would be definitely useful. Anyway,
> I think
> the exclusions should be more like an exception than a rule, if they are
> required
> in most cases, this is not good.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
>     Andriy Redko
>
> RMB> Hi everyone,
>
> RMB> CXF dependency management is based on being self contained.
> RMB> Was not working bad years ago when it was using geronimo bundles but
> since
> RMB> some years it becomes more and more work to integrate each cxf release
> RMB> because dependencies became greedy.
>
> RMB> Here are the main challenges:
>
> RMB> 1. spec jars are using jakarta (whereas the app/soft can use javax,
> RMB> geronimo, smix and other flavors)
> RMB> 2. most modules leak not required dependencies (thinking to jta, jms,
> rmi
> RMB> out of my head)
> RMB> 3. some java 11 oriented dependencies are popping up whereas they are
> not
> RMB> needed in 80% of the cases (activation, jaxb for ex)
> RMB> 4. module rarely/never mark not required dependencies as being
> RMB> optional/provided
>
> RMB> To give you an idea, it is not uncommon to have ~15 exclusions to all
> cxf
> RMB> modules when importing them.
>
> RMB> Is it something identified? Any plan to enhance this (like having
> RMB> aggregator poms "cxf-spec", "cxf-dep-optional", "cxf-java9" to ease
> the
> RMB> exclusions? making it provided and having aggregator pom with the
> RMB> depencencies marked as required (strict module vs consumed pom
> modules))?
>
> RMB> Side note: explosing cxf-core can also help, it contains a lot of
> optional
> RMB> stuff which can also make this work harder to maintain.
>
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