Typically, Apache projects will use wiki for developer documentation, but
the websites tend to be more user facing (with developer aspects).

John

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 1:38 PM Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi -
>
> Make sure to study these two links. Pay attention to branding policy and
> required ASF links
>
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs
> https://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Steve Lawrence <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > A website is a lot more customizable so we can do things that are a
> > little more visually appealing than in the wiki, which is pretty plain
> > and barebones. I think helps to make the project more mature and
> > reputable. And it doesn't add much extra work. After only day or so of
> > playing with it, there isn't much more work needed to get things up and
> > running.
> >
> > It also has a nice templating feature, so you can update the template of
> > multiple pages at once. So there's reduced effort for that.
> >
> > Another thing that's nice is the entire website would be stored in a git
> > repo, so you can support everything that git support (e.g. pull
> > requests, branch, reviews, etc.) so the contributor workflow exactly the
> > same.
> >
> > This also doesn't mean we can't have anything point to the wiki. I'm
> > sure we'll still use the wiki for things like architecture descriptions
> > and things. But for stuff like downloading, high level description of
> > daffodil, marketing kind of stuff, a website would be beneficial.
> >
> >
> > On 11/06/2017 12:12 PM, Mike Beckerle wrote:
> >> Why wouldn't we just put an automatic redirect to a home landing page
> on the wiki?
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Steve Lawrence <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 10:49:08 AM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Daffodil Website
> >>
> >> I think our infrastructure move is nearing completion. I think there are
> >> two remaining issues:
> >>
> >> 1) Wiki migration, which I think we should slowly and methodically move
> >> over to force a much needed cleanup and reorganization.
> >>
> >> 2) Website. ASF provides hosting for a website at
> >> http://daffodil.incubator.apache.org, but we must generate the content.
> >> From the looks of other incubators, this doesn't need to be anything
> >> super complicated, it more acts as a landing page for the project and
> >> provides project information (e.g. github, how to contribute,
> >> documentation, Apache info etc.).
> >>
> >> The website must be static (so no CGI/PHP/Python/etc.). Looking at other
> >> incubators, it looks like there are a handful of static website
> >> generators. The most popular looks to be built by Jekyll. A template for
> >> Apache incubators was created that uses Jekyll here:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template
> >>
> >> It's a little old, but I've played with it a bit and it seems more than
> >> sufficient. The way it works (like I think many static website
> >> generators) is that templates are created and then you just create
> >> Markdown files that add content to the template. So making updates to
> >> content is pretty simple.
> >>
> >> Some current incubators that use the above template or something very
> >> similar:
> >>
> >>  https://livy.incubator.apache.org/
> >>  https://gossip.incubator.apache.org/
> >>  https://rya.incubator.apache.org/
> >>  https://toree.incubator.apache.org/
> >>  https://guacamole.incubator.apache.org/
> >>  https://s2graph.incubator.apache.org/download.html
> >>  https://s2graph.incubator.apache.org/
> >>
> >> So it seems pretty popular and flexible.
> >>
> >> Unless anyone has any experience or suggestions for other static code
> >> generators, I think it would be a good idea to start with that website
> >> template and tweak it to meet our needs so we can get a good landing
> >> page create for Daffodil.
> >>
> >> - Steve
> >>
> >
>
>

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