2016-09-25 17:54 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>:

> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:49 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > 2016-09-25 17:40 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:37 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > rmannibu...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > 2016-09-25 17:33 GMT+02:00 Thomas Andraschko <
> > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com
> > > > >:
> > > >
> > > > > not sure if a cdi2-module is enough
> > > > > we should also get rid of some of our api's which are in CDI 2.0
> now
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > we can switch them of on CDI 2 while we still maintain it on CDI 1.0,
> > > that
> > > > said not sure we should switch them off, all are not really standard
> I
> > > > think and impl can still be important (anyway we can work on a list
> on
> > > > another thread maybe)
> > > >
> > >
> > > IMHO, we do a disservice to the community by keeping both CDI 1.0 and
> 2.0
> > > in the same release branch.  We can't safely compile against both CDI
> 1.0
> > > and 2.0 in the same profile.
> > >
> > >
> > right but was not the proposal which was to keep current branch and add
> CDI
> > 2.0 features in another module and run this one only on CDI 2 servers but
> > still run on CDI 2.0 servers the other modules through jenkins.
> >
>
> I can't even follow what you're trying to say here unfortunately.  As I
> understand it, my proposal is to make a separate 2.0 branch while 1.0 lives
> on in master, probably until we get to a point where 1.x becomes purely
> maintenance and 2.x is the mainline for new features.  We can probably even
> weigh out back porting features based on community need.
>
> I think what you're trying to propose is that we have a CDI2 module which
> serves as an implementation of our core library but built on CDI 2 APIs.
> This will work, but would require us to maintain the api JARs signature due
> to internal usage, unless you're meaning that we have a CDI2 impl for each
> module?
>
>
>
I'm proposaing to keep current structure, add a -cdi2 for the feature
requiring CDI 2 or not meaning anything for CDI 1 and that's it. No
reimplementation until it gets needed.


>
>
> >
> > Clearly the question is cost(2 branches) <?> cost(1 branch).
> >
> > Suppose you duplicate the code 1s, you will get 2 core-api/core-impl
> > modules which would be the same so you would change the groupId or
> artifact
> > arbitrarly? I find this clearly more misleading than having a ds-cdi2
> > module and keeping the original ones as it is today when it will be time
> of
> > migrations.
> >
>
> I disagree.  We make it clear on our website that DS 2.0 + is all based on
> CDI 2.  There is no second artifact or group id required.  Its simply
> semantic versioning.  DS 2.0 is not backwards compatible to DS 1.x.
>
>
Ok, not a fan of that cause it prevents software evolution but would work
and is probably ok/consistent for DS.


>
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> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2016-09-25 17:28 GMT+02:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibu...@gmail.com
> > >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > 2016-09-25 17:22 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org
> >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey guys,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Since its inception, DeltaSpike has targeted Java EE 6 and
> lower,
> > > and
> > > > > as
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > result the CDI 1.0 runtime.  We have maintained a pretty
> > backwards
> > > > > > > compatible code base for 5 years now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CDI 2.0 is going to wrap up in January, if current schedules
> > align
> > > > > > > correctly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd like to propose that we start a branch for 2.0 development
> > now.
> > > > It
> > > > > > > would be a good place to put fixes for
> > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-1206 and
> other
> > > > > > > enhancements that we can make to our core runtime to better
> > > integrate
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > CDI 1.1/1.2/2.0 features that have been added.  In addition to
> > the
> > > > > Java 8
> > > > > > > upgrade taking place there.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We can keep master on 1.x for patches that may be needed for
> the
> > > 1.x
> > > > > > line,
> > > > > > > and rebase them with a 2.0 branch to make sure both branches
> get
> > > the
> > > > > > fixes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What feature do we target and need CDI 2.0 for it? If none I
> think
> > we
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > need the branch yet, if enough we should also think to have a
> cdi2
> > > > module
> > > > > > to avoid to fork code while 1.0/1.1 is maintained
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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