Everything that's not under "contrib" should have at least one official
release. That's why I suggested to move the "test-data" folder into
/contrib (unless we agree it shall better be deleted from /trunk?)

On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Werner Keil <[email protected]> wrote:

> OK thanks.
>
> DDR Simple 1.0.0 is ready for release pretty much as of now. A few minor
> improvements include using only Log4J 2 instead of SLF4J ("Eat your own
> Dogfood" at Apache if you want, all examples are already migrated;-) The
> only dependency is Data 1.0.1 or above, aside from the embedded W3C JAR.
>
> A combined Examples project 1.0.0 shall follow. Demonstrating all Java
> libraries.
>
> Ideally we should have Jenkins CI sessions for 1.x and later 2.x branches
> of all relevant artifacts, at least "Java" and "Examples". The Java 8
> glitch showed, we must have more than just Java 6 even if this is the
> minimal JVM version we support until further notice;-)
>
> Werner
>
> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Reza Naghibi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Ok, just making sure.
>>
>> So here is my rough roadmap:
>>
>> -Jan 2015 - release data 1.0.2-Q2 2015, release data 1.0.3-Q3 to Q4,
>> release data and client 2.0
>>       From: Werner Keil <[email protected]>
>>  To: [email protected]; Reza Naghibi <[email protected]>
>>  Sent: Thursday, January 1, 2015 12:05 PM
>>  Subject: Re: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DMAP-112
>>
>> That's why it is slated for a 1.0 release (regardless of maturity but it
>> goes along with 1.x of the data files) and it does not need to be
>> compatible with any 2.0 data changes in future.Whether or not we maintain 2
>> branches of data, guess time shall tell. Patches or fixes that can be
>> applied maybe, but like with other vendors (DeviceAtlas, 52DegreesMobi or
>> ScienteMobile/WURFL) they may not maintain 2 parallel repositories forever.
>> Werner
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Reza Naghibi
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I understand.
>>
>> What is the roadmap for the legacy client?
>>
>> Just so you are aware, 2.0 data release will remove the notion of a
>> builder from the data. How will the legacy client evolve to support this?
>> Take a look at this:
>>
>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/devicemap/trunk/devicemap/java/simpleddr/src/main/java/org/apache/devicemap/simpleddr/builder/?pathrev=1648789
>>
>>
>> Go into the os, browser, and device. There is no way 2.0 data can
>> maintain support for this kind of builder architecture. Are you aware of
>> this?
>>
>>       From: Werner Keil <[email protected]>
>>  To: [email protected]; Reza Naghibi <[email protected]>
>>  Sent: Thursday, January 1, 2015 11:48 AM
>>  Subject: Re: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DMAP-112
>>
>> Well, it's just a fact, the W3C Simple implementation shall be released
>> as 1.0 according to a discussion we had a long time ago.
>> It's been around and stable almost ever since OpenDDR donated it and that
>> has not changed.The only reason it was not released was an incompatible
>> change (bug) you slipped into a Data release 1.x where packages of builders
>> were named improperly.This was fixed with 1.0,1, thus nothing prevents a
>> release of the DDR artifact.
>> There is no rift, we have a .NET client (which is barely maintained, but
>> that's another issue) and a new direction which allows more flexibility in
>> the "Cloud", e.g. retrrieving device data from various sources. That's
>> something W3C did not consider important, so the location of the data
>> source has to be fixed, that's the only real drawback of the W3C DDR
>> implementation. It could only be fixed in the W3C code we don't own;-)
>> I trust the PMC is wise enough to release the W3C DDR implementation,
>> because not only examples depend on it. And it provides functionality and
>> recognition power the "New Cloud" client will not get until V 2.0 as you
>> also said. It does not matter if that happens in JIRA or the mailing list,
>> JIRA is also transparent and allows us to see what's been done;)
>> Cheers,Werner
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Reza Naghibi
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> So I don't want to have discussions in JIRA, so Werner, can you please
>> elaborate on your last point in this thread:
>>
>> "Indicates, while not in direct competition, the "older" W3C one is a bit
>> more mature and stable."
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DMAP-112
>>
>>
>> The reason im asking you to elaborate is because as a PMC member, I would
>> like to better understand your thoughts on this project, its mission
>> statement, and where we are going with our data and API development.
>>
>> Im concerned because you seem to be building a rift in this project in
>> regard to old API vs new API. This is not going to be good for the health
>> of the project so this is an attempt to better understand your views and
>> feeling towards the project and the direction we are going in. This is
>> important because you are someone who actively promotes and markets this
>> project.
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