Trustin Lee wrote:

I know that you mentioned commons umbrella just 'for example', but I'd like to talk about the vision of MINA project a little bit here.

MINA is just a network application framework for now, but I don't think it will be forever. My aim is to make MINA a full featured network application platform which features:
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So going under commons umbrella is like moving to another Directory project IMHO because MINA won't fit well with commons eventually.

I agree, 'commons' is maybe not the best example..'Jakarta' probably is more suited to what I meant.

My point was simply to say that it needs to be more apparent that MINA is not really related to Directory but is a *real* project on its own, like if you go to the Apache web page, user can see it listed without needing to go to directory.

At the same time a TLP really is supposed to be for a very mature project and means that whatever happens the project can auto-feed itself which is very challenging and should remain like that.

For the records, originally, (Brett wasn't there yet but he can ask Jason for history :), Maven was under Turbine. The beginning though, was a bit more ...hem...frantic, but if I remember well it started in with a [maven] tag in turbine mailing list in January or February 2002 (maybe even december 2001) and by April it had its own mailing list and was flooded by commits.

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