John E. Conlon a écrit :
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 09:43 -0400, Alex Karasulu wrote:
The number of active committers on Apache Directory Server is dwindling
and we have many areas where a single developer has been working alone.
Some email threads have tried to address the issue of the lack of enough
committers in specific areas: see threads [0] & [1].
I seem to have had a ringside seat on these. Apologies if I contributed
adversely to causing a break.
No, not at all ! I just posted this mail because afeter having long
discussion with Osgi gurus at ApacheCon EU, I wanted to know the current
status of dev being done in this area. I'm sorry if you felt like having
done somthing wrong. May be my english was a little bit chaotic and
didn't expressed whar I had in mind ?
So we are
suffering mostly in the following areas:
o OSGi effort,
Would help out all I can to move this forward. Unfortunately the OSGi
effort is an effort that requires a big picture view of ADS internals
and project direction. My ignorance of both has impeded my efforts to
help with much with the OSGi effort to date.
Ahha... This is one of the main concern. We need more documentation,
that's obvious.
<snip/>
As for new committers, I think we need to lower the barrier for
committership while safely integrating these committers into our
committer base. One key need is to provide the proper guidance while
reviewing their activity. Up to now we've been getting several
contributions and many are just collecting up in JIRA.
Yes, although most of the OSGi related issues I added were not commented
on by active comitters, I felt it best to just get them in to JIRA to
notify anyone else attempting to work with ADS and OSGi about what
problems and issues they may encounter.
Yeah, because we are not a string and large community. We are working
beside fixing ADS, and we just don't have enough time...
Possible Drawbacks
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o Needs some upfront initiative.
o More process to deal with?
o Will probies feel like second class committers? Are there social
ramifications?
Of course by definition they are just that.
A "probitter" is not a second class committer. Sometime it cost much
more time to fix a pb because a wrong pice of soft has been committed
than simply read the commit before. I remember many of my bad commits,
and I do think that receiving a "please rollback" make you feel much
more crappy because
1) you have done a mistake and
2) someone else has lost some time because of you...
I really buy this "probitters" stuff, even for old committers.
But that is okay! IMO
'second class committer' or 'mentored committer' sounds better than
'probie';-)
Probitters ? :)
Thoughts? Comments?
Would be happy to help out the ADS effort anyway I can.
Welcome in board !
Emmanuel
