Ceki, this as a public comment, and as I have signed the CCLA, you can use
it freely :)

On 8/17/06, Ceki Gulcu (JIRA) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-233?page=comments#action_12428632]

Ceki Gulcu commented on DIRMINA-233:
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> I *like* logs, a bad logs is always better than no log at all, and
> good logs save big time, because on a production system, you can't
> step through the code with your favorite IDE debugger. Beleive me or
> not, I prefer 'grepping' and 'sedding' 2.5 Gb of logs than stepping
> through 10K lines of code...

Emmanuel, may I quote you on the above?

> Provide an extra thin logging layer for those who don't want SLF4J
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DIRMINA-233
>                 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-233
>             Project: Directory MINA
>          Issue Type: Task
>            Reporter: Trustin Lee
>
> As MINA gets more and more popular, the number of people who doesn't
want SLF4J increased because they were using other logging frameworks such
as Log4J or commons-logging.  We know SLF4J provides what exactly Log4J or
commons-logging provides, but it's just a matter of preference.  We need to
meet as many people's preference as we can as a general network application
framework.

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Emmanuel Lécharny

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