On Nov 22, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:



On 11/22/06, Ole Ersoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yeah - Actually - That should be really easy to fix.

We need a "quality controlled" Maven Repository that
we ourselves populate and update.

ohhhh yes !

I think if you explicitly specify the version of every plugin you use you won't need this. AFAIK existing published non-snapshot artifacts haven't ever changed.... no matter what grevious errors they may have. So, if you explicitly say which version you want, you will continue to get it.

Snapshot resolution is another question.


So if something gets updated on the Maven project,
we're insulated from it.

like if Maven was a bad virus :)


Actually we don't care if something gets updated,
unless we have a bug that we know about and that we
need fixed.

We should care a *lot* : this is what configuration management is all about ! We want to guarantee that the version x.y.z that use the plugin version A;B;C will still use this plugin version in 2 years.

Then we pull the update and place it in
our repository.

So we need to:

Create the Repository


YESSSSS !

Host it (Alex? Da Haus?)

The best solution would be to have a local file system based repo (but maven does not support it). Otherwize, I have a server on which we can put the repo, and das haus could be another one, and people.apache.org is another solution


maven does support local file system based repos, we use a couple in the geronimo build for artifacts that aren't published. I'm not sure you can turn off access to the central repo however. One confusing aspect is that an offline build can't access these local file system repos.


I guess I could host it as well as a backup....I'm
doing a controlled repository anyways...

Reconfigure our Maven instances.

Probably create our own maven installation, so that
future contributers get a Maven install that works
specifically for ADS.

Not sure to get what yyou mean.

And provide an additional configuration tutorial in
case they already have Maven...

"they" = who ?


Cutting yourselves off from maven updates will pretty much ensure that you continue using the current version of maven forever :-) complete with all its friendly bugs. I'd try using plugin management in the root pom to specify the version of every plugin you use.

thanks
david jencks


--- Emmanuel Lecharny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 11/22/06, Ole Ersoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Guys,
> >
> > Maven has a project called Doxia.  There's no doco
> > yet...
>
>
> No kidding ;) This is a maven project, buddy :)
>
>
> </snip>
>
>
>
> <rant>
>
> hey, so far, we have serious maven problems, like
> some plugins have been
> updated and fucked up the build.
>
> I would say I'm pretty pissed off, because it's not
> the first time. I just
> consider that, so far, maven is definitively making
> me loosing a hell of
> time for *nothing*.
>
> And i'm not alone in this situation.
>
>
> So, I would say one thing : unless we have fixed all
> the maven iussue that
> we do have, and make it solid rock and reliable, I
> would say -1 to any more
> plugins. And I'm very close to say +1 to ant and
> ivy, if it wasn't a big
> loss of time.
>
> But at a point, it may worth the time...
>
> Just make maven work like ant does, this is what we
> need now. Is taht so
> complicated ? (not talking about continuum which is
> just a joke)
> </rant>
>
> --
> Cordialement,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
>




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