I will!

Thanks!

On 21/03/2025 20:33, Brian Demers wrote:
It's gone!
https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/pull/773 <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/pull/773>

If anyone is interested please take a quick look, otherwise I'll merge it in the near future!

On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 9:57 AM Brian Demers <brian.dem...@gmail.com <mailto:brian.dem...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Handful of delombok changes, I'll probably make a few more and then
    cleanup the git history.
    https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/pull/773
    <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/pull/773>

    On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 1:32 AM Emmanuel Lécharny
    <elecha...@gmail.com <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Sounds the proper and pragmatic approach.

        Even if it generates too much code, we can clean it up later.
        That's
        better that wasting a lot of time rewriting the code by hand
        with the
        risk of introducing errors.

        On 18/03/2025 20:43, Brian Demers wrote:
         > I've got a handful of delombok changes locally that I'll push
        later tonight.
         >
         > My _normal_ process for this is using the "delombok"
        integration in
         > Intellij, and then cleaning up any of the generated code.
         > reorganizing the getter/setters, removing any unrelated
        formatting changes.
         >
         > The result should be the same code as with Lombok, but there
        are a
         > couple cases where classes should just be marked deprecated.
         >
         >
         >
         > On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 2:13 AM Emmanuel Lécharny
        <elecha...@gmail.com <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>
         > <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
         >
         >     Hi Brian,
         >
         >     I changed the topic for clarity.
         >
         >     The @Data is used quite extensively (122 instances). Many
        of them are
         >     totally useless, like for classes
        UnableToCreateResourceException,
         >     UnableToDeleteResourceException, etc.
         >
         >     We most certainly can get rid of it for such class. For
        some others,
         >     like RepositoryRegistry, it's not obvious what it brings,
        as we will
         >     never use the hashCode or equals method, the public
        constructor with 2
         >     arguments will never be called either, and I question the
        toString()
         >     method.
         >
         >     There is some work to be done in evaluating the 'cost' of
        such removal,
         >     so that we don't add unneeded methods.
         >
         >     And btw this is the pb with Lombok: it offers you some
        convenient ways
         >     to add boilerplate code that could be tedious to write
        (hashCode,
         >     equals
         >     and toString), but do it witha  carpet bombing approach
        when applied
         >     blindly.
         >
         >
         >     Anyway, I'll analyze the various usage.
         >
         >     On 15/03/2025 13:00, Brian Demers wrote:
         >      > Please do!
         >      > -Brian
         >      >
         >      >> On Mar 15, 2025, at 2:51 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny
         >     <elecha...@gmail.com <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
         >      >>
         >      >> I have already removed all the @SLF4J bit, wanna me
        to push it?
         >      >>
         >      >>> On 14/03/2025 14:54, Brian Demers wrote:
         >      >>>     java -jar ~/Downloads/lombok.jar delombok src -d
        src-delomboked
         >      >>>     It generates Java classes with boilerplate code
        (but it's
         >     rather ugly).
         >      >>> Yeah, I did this to a few classes when fixing some
        chaining
         >     setters.  I should have a little time in the near future
        to do the
         >     rest (and clean up the generated bits) :D
         >      >>>     On 13/03/2025 17:01, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote:
         >      >>>      > Now, let's say that with Java records, most
        of Lombok
         >     usage has just
         >      >>>      > vanished. It's just a matter of switching to
        a recent
         >     JVM version
         >      >>>      >   (Java 17).
         >      >>>      >
         >      >>>      >
         >      >>>      > On 13/03/2025 16:06, Brian Demers wrote:
         >      >>>      >> Sounds like we have similar opinions on
        Lombok 😉
         >      >>>      >>
         >      >>>      >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 11:01 AM Emmanuel
        Lecharny
         >      >>>      >> <elecha...@gmail.com
        <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com> <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com
        <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>>
         >     <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>>>
         >      >>>     <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com
        <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com> <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com
        <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>>
         >     <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>>>>> wrote:
         >      >>>      >>
         >      >>>      >>     Hi Brian,
         >      >>>      >>
         >      >>>      >>     actually, never mind :-) I have it working.
         >      >>>      >>
         >      >>>      >>     I followed the
         > https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse
        <https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse>
         >     <https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse
        <https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse>>
         >      >>>     <https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse
        <https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse>
         >     <https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse
        <https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse>>>
         >      >>>      >>     <https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse
        <https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse>
         >     <https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse
        <https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse>>
         >      >>>     <https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse
        <https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse>
         >     <https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse
        <https://projectlombok.org/setup/eclipse>>>> page, and after
         >      >>>      >>     having added the lombok plugin, it's all
        finer!
         >      >>>      >>
         >      >>>      >>     To answer your question, no we don't use
        lombok. It's
         >      >>>     useless, and
         >      >>>      >>     creates issues just to save a few typing
        that you
         >     don't even
         >      >>>     have
         >      >>>      >>     tyo do
         >      >>>      >>     if you use the IDE create code feature.
         >      >>>      >>
         >      >>>      >>
         >      >>>      >>     On 13/03/2025 15:17, Brian Demers wrote:
         >      >>>      >>      > My guess is you need to enable annotation
         >     processors.
         >      >>>      >>      > I haven't used Eclipse in a while, so
        not sure
         >     if these
         >      >>>      >>     instructions are
         >      >>>      >>      > correct:
         >      >>>      >>      >
         >      >>>      >>
         >      >>>      >>
         >      >>>
         >
        https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse 
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse> 
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse 
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse>> 
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse 
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse> 
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse 
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse>>> 
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse 
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse> 
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse 
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse>> 
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse 
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse> 
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse 
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43404891/how-to-configure-java-annotation-processors-in-eclipse>>>>
         >      >>>      >>      >
         >      >>>      >>      > IntelliJ requires something similar.
         >      >>>      >>      >
         >      >>>      >>      > Related:
         >      >>>
        https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540
        <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540>
         >     <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540
        <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540>>
>      >>>  <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540
        <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540>
         >     <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540
        <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540>>>
         >      >>>      >>
         >       <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540
        <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540>
         >     <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540
        <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540>>
>      >>>  <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540
        <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540>
         >     <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540
        <https://github.com/apache/directory-scimple/issues/540>>>>
         >      >>>      >>      >
         >      >>>      >>      > I didn't add a lot of detail in that
        issue, but my
         >      >>>     frustrations
         >      >>>      >>     with Lombok
         >      >>>      >>      > are based on this type of problem
        (well, that
         >     and it's
         >      >>>     difficult
         >      >>>      >>     to debug
         >      >>>      >>      > code generated at compile time by an
        annotation
         >     processor).
         >      >>>      >> Maybe it
         >      >>>      >>      > should be updated to simply "Remove
        Lombok" 🙂
         >      >>>      >>      >
         >      >>>      >>      > Maybe a note should be added to the
        readme about
         >     IDE support
         >      >>>      >>     until the
         >      >>>      >>      > above issue is resolved 🤔
         >      >>>      >>      >
         >      >>>      >>      > I also think IDEs could do a better
        job of enabling
         >      >>>     annotation
         >      >>>      >>     processors
         >      >>>      >>      > if configured by build tools, but
        that's a
         >     different problem.
         >      >>>      >>      >
         >      >>>      >>      > TL;DR (opinion) lombok is great for
        code in blog
         >     posts, it's
         >      >>>      >>     painful in
         >      >>>      >>      > real projects.
         >      >>>      >>      >
         >      >>>      >>      > On a slightly more serious note, are
        any of the
         >     other
         >      >>>     Directory
         >      >>>      >>     projects
         >      >>>      >>      > using Lombok? Or does anyone have strong
         >     opinions for or
         >      >>>     against?
         >      >>>      >>      >
         >      >>>      >>      > -Brian
         >      >>>      >>      >
         >      >>>      >>      > On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 10:01 AM
        Emmanuel Lécharny
         >      >>>      >>     <elecha...@gmail.com
        <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com> <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com
        <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>>
         >     <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>>>
         >      >>>     <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com
        <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com> <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com
        <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>>
         >     <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com <mailto:elecha...@gmail.com>>>>>
         >      >>>      >>      > wrote:
         >      >>>      >>      >
         >      >>>      >>      >> Hi Brian,
         >      >>>      >>      >>
         >      >>>      >>      >> I have a bit of day job's time to
        investigate
         >     SCIM, and
         >      >>>      >> obvioulsy,
         >      >>>      >>      >> SCIMple is going to be my choice.
         >      >>>      >>      >>
         >      >>>      >>      >> A few question: yesterday, I have
        had hard time
         >      >>>     buildling the
         >      >>>      >>     project (I
         >      >>>      >>      >> have updated the readme to reflect
        the build
         >     process,
         >      >>>     because mvn
         >      >>>      >>      >> package is not doing the job when
        you haven't
         >     build the
         >      >>>     project
         >      >>>      >>     at least
         >      >>>      >>      >> once). Anyway, tests are passing
        green, all is
         >     good.
         >      >>>     But... I
         >      >>>      >>     loaded it
         >      >>>      >>      >> in Eclipse, and I get a bunch of
        errors, like some
         >      >>>     methods that
         >      >>>      >>     are not
         >      >>>      >>      >> present:
         >      >>>      >>      >>
>      >>>      >>      >> log cannot be resolved RepositoryRegistry.java
         >      >>>      >>      >>
         >      >>>      >>
         >      >>>      >>
         >      >>>
>  /scim-core-1.0.0-SNAPSHOT/src/main/java/org/apache/directory/scim/core/repository
         >      >>>      >>      >>
         >      >>>      >>      >> line 64 Java Problem
         >      >>>      >>      >>
         >      >>>      >>      >> AFAICT, the Lombok @SLF4J is suppose to
         >     magically create
         >      >>>     this
         >      >>>      >>     log field.
         >      >>>      >>      >>
         >      >>>      >>      >> Do you have a quick guide on how to
        get it
         >     working with
         >      >>>     Eclipse?
         >      >>>      >>      >> Thanks!
         >      >>>      >>      >>
         >      >>>      >>      >> --
         >      >>>      >>      >> ------------------------
         >      >>>      >>      >> Emmanuel Lécharny
         >      >>>      >>      >> emm...@worteks.com
        <mailto:emm...@worteks.com> <mailto:emm...@worteks.com
        <mailto:emm...@worteks.com>>
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        <mailto:emm...@worteks.com <mailto:emm...@worteks.com>>>
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        <mailto:emm...@worteks.com> <mailto:emm...@worteks.com
        <mailto:emm...@worteks.com>>
         >     <mailto:emm...@worteks.com <mailto:emm...@worteks.com>
        <mailto:emm...@worteks.com <mailto:emm...@worteks.com>>>>
         >      >>>      >>      >> elecha...@apache.org
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        <mailto:elecha...@apache.org>> <mailto:elecha...@apache.org
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