+1 I'll help with trying to navigate the bike shedding and possible / real / previewed policy conflicts. Around the ASF we often get confused over who can do / say / control what. We can often spend more time over that than actually getting stiff done.
This very "vote" is an example. 1) it started out as asking the board for permissuon, which is not necessary because the boundaries set in the current proposal mean the ASF is investing volunteer time only and no policy is being changed. 2) this is an unnecessary vote. We clearly have consensus on this proposal given the discuss thread of last week. There we were suggestions for improvement, but no objections. That means we have consensus. 3) a week ago we were in danger of never progressing because this proposal is deemed as insufficient. Some progress is better than no progress. It does not mean we need to settle. It means we are moving forward in small reversible steps. What I do not intend to do is the hard work this committee had in front of it. I'll help as much as I can (possibly mentoring an intern if there is the right match) but I plan to help others get stuff done, others are far more suited than I when it comes to creating an infrastructure to help the ASF change things with respect to D&I. Thanks Myrle for driving the closure here. --- Sent from my phone, likely while waking down the stars and having a conversation. Sorry about my carelessness, I blame the machines. ________________________________ From: Joan Touzet <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 5:00:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VOTE] Notify the board that D&I intends to coordinate an Outreachy intern program +1, with the parenthetical that calling a 72-hour vote on a Friday night of a 4-day holiday weekend in the US was probably not a great idea ;) I am happy to support the vetting process of project and intern applicants, working with Sage and others to help build an approach that meets everyone's needs and expectations. I'll approach my communities as well, though I don't have the bandwidth to mentor *and* be on the Board this year - my apologies. -Joan "with the humidity it feels like 40C here" Touzet On 2019-07-05 5:57 p.m., Myrle Krantz wrote: > The long awaited vote! With a request: > > Those voting +1, please consider also saying what kind of help you'd like > to provide the effort with. Even bringing the message to your respective > communities will be helpful. Gris, what other tasks need to be done, that > people could volunteer for? > > Here's my +1. I would be willing to help keep the conversation productive > and moving forward here on this list, and to spread the message. > > If the vote passes, we'll send the following notice to the board. > > Best Regards, > Myrle > > ----------------- > Subject: [NOTICE] D&I intends to coordinate an Outreachy intern program. > > Background: D&I wishes to perform UX research on the experience of members > of underrepresented groups as they get started with our communities. > Internships via Outreachy provide us with an excellent opportunity to do so. > > A sponsor has offered to provide stipends via Outreachy which will cover 3 > interns. D&I plans to provide the following support: > > * Advertise this opportunity to projects and seek mentors & proposals. > * Manage the project submission process to Outreachy, including filtering > out unsuitable project proposals, and, if necessary, making a final > selection of intern-project pairs. > * Ask interns for feedback on their experiences at various times throughout > the internship. > * Provide appropriate and useful feedback to the Foundation and to the > projects about opportunities to improve how welcoming we are, and what we > can improve on. > * Use this as an opportunity to increase awareness and acceptance of the > ASF in communities which we are currently not reaching as well as we would > like. > > If Outreachy receives funding for more than 3 interns for the ASF, we will > facilitate the placement of such additional interns with Apache projects, > but we plan to keep the initial rounds of this project relatively small for > learning purposes. > > We intend to measure the success of this program in the following ways: > * In a separate effort we will be working on and administering a survey at > regular intervals. > * We will ask participating projects to provide feedback on the program and > on our resulting documentation. > > > > ----------------- > The road ahead on this proposal is as follows (** indicates where we are > now): > * Start a [DISCUSS] thread. > * Allow the discussion to run as long as *new* points are being made. > ** Start a [VOTE] thread to run for 72 hours. > * Submit a [NOTICE] to the board. > * Wait 72 hours for potential board objections. > * Get to work. >
