I also like that analogy and I think it matches what we are trying to do. We 
are trying to do all we can to allow for equitable opportunity for all. We need 
to know what "blockers" there are and what we can do about them. I have no 
doubt that the Outreachy effort will help with that.

The concern I have is ensuring there is a realistic understanding of what 
equitable opportunity means, and how to implement them, especially as it 
impacts the concept of merit here at the ASF. Because it is never too early to 
remind ourselves of some basic tenets, one core idea of the Apache Way and our 
do-ocracy is that merit (or reward) is dependent upon what you do, not who you 
are. As such, we should always keep in the back of our minds that such 
solutions as "you are from an under-represented group and therefore you don't 
need to earn that much merit" or, conversely, "you are someone with privilege 
and therefore needs to do a lot more to earn the same amount of merit" will 
assuredly not stand at the ASF.

No, I am not worried about that happening, but just wanted to make sure that 
this aspect of the Apache Way was known and acknowledged.

And the final reminder is understanding that, at the end of the day, not 
everyone will want to look over the fence. And that's OK. That is not a 
failure. Some people may simply not be interested in watching whatever is going 
on over there, no matter how easy it is we make it for them to do so.

Cheers!

On 2019/07/17 17:03:55, Rich Bowen <[email protected]> wrote: 
> 
> 
> On 7/17/19 10:52 AM, Michael Mior wrote:
> > I'm familiar with that cartoon although I recently came across this
> > article that goes a little deeper.
> > 
> > http://culturalorganizing.org/the-problem-with-that-equity-vs-equality-graphic/
> 
> Yeah, that's a cool extension to the conversation.
> 
> Analogies are ... just analogies. They are not reality. Taking them too
> far - their "logical extreme" - always results in problems.
> 
> I do like the extension of the analogy in this article, but even then,
> it eventually breaks down.
> 
> The fence, for example, protects us from line drives. :)
> 
> We strive to bring more people to the table, and make the table bigger,
> and yet we have angry voices complaining that we'll run out of food. One
> of these days, I need to write that "Open Source as pot-luck dinner"
> blog post. The more people we bring to the table, the better dinner will be.
> 
> I am saddened by all of the anger and outrage that is generated by
> wanting to have more friends come to dinner.
> 

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