Hi all !
and
Hi marbux !

I am Mikko Silvennoinen a lawyer, from Finland and a linux enthusiast and some kind of a programmer.
I was previously almost two decades employed by the Finnish government.
I was a district registrar and an office chief and notary public and had a licence to wed people into marriage and confirm real estate deals and was local authority on all that included registering people, companies and associations, boats, mining, buildings and to organize telephone service for people to register new addresses etc.. And to sell that information mainly for advertizers, but also for other good causes. The office also took care of registering peoples names and family-relations and registering people moving to the country for the first time and provided the lists/registers of voters for elections. I also confirmed and registered the father's recognitions of children born
outside marriage. We registered also the "gay marriages" and change of sex.
And we had a department that took care of matters that had to do with guardianship of persons, who could not handle their own economical matters, usually because of their medical condition. The biggist task was auditing yearly the accounts of guardians and at the end of the guardianship.

Anyway a few years ago I started with my own company and doing now mostly consulting and software product development. But also hardware/system consulting, but so far quite narrow
hi-tech projects.

I just joined this list, which was the wish of marbux's.

To the solution of the pleadingpaper issue:
I think it would be ok to have multiple templates, and a macro/script to
help and guide of choosing the rigth template for each case.

I finally went thru your work plan outline for Ooo-pleadingpaper project.

I would leave most of the stuff to the enduser.
To make a system that covers every jurisdiction and every country sounds
like a mega project that will never be ready.
This will be difficult on such a detailed goals that you have, because:
we have different mesuring units: you have inches I have cm,
we have different paper sizes: you ? I have A4,
in other countries -different languages, legislation, practices,
character sets (everybody!: from now on
UTF-8) ...

But if we play with the thougth, you first would have to build a
database of all requirements,
in such a way, that the script asks the jurisdiction and all other
relevant info and reads the requirements
from the database and according to that makes a pleadingpaper (template).
But if you have that kind of database, you don't have to limit the
output to a template.
You could connect to other databases with info about legislation,
prejudicates, and
the data saved from your (and others in your office) previous cases.
Then you could put the script (rather script calling other scripts) help
also on the contents of the pleadingpaper (or any other legal document).

I would settle to make some versions of pleadingpaper template, and
teach everybody, at least
the law students and secretaries, how to edit those templates.
Your outline for project plan could serve as a base for knowing which
variables can change
in different versions of templates.

I have used that database approach before, but I think it can only work in one jurisdiction and in a narrow field of law. With a lot of similar cases you could have secretaries do the most of work after teaching them to use the templates/script/database system.
The script/wizards took them thru to delivering rigth kind of documents.
But I had to concentrate to keep the system valid by being absolutely
sure, it contained all up to date information of legislation and prejudicats etc.. and the rigth rules in the scripts to be able to always come to the rigth conclusion.


But to pleadingpaper: the fastest way to results would be to make a
lookalike file of a perfect pleading paper and put sticky notes where
you want to have things noted that are functions that the
lookalike don't explain just by looking. Remember to put sticky notes of
what jurisdiction it is intended to etc...

I still have an issue of the licensing requirements that Sun wants us to sign. So it is possible, that I don't upload anything to this web-site, but let all
download it along with my license from my new website.
(It's still under construction for some time.)

Best regards,

Mikko Silvennoinen

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