On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:01:15 +0100
Clayton <ccorn...@openoffice.org> wrote:

> I'm thinking that in [[XX/Main Page]], the "Main Page" part should be
> the localized title... ie not actually "Main Page" but the
> translated/localized text for "Main Page" (as the Turkish, Arabic,
> Vietnamese etc communities have done).
> 
> This also applies in some ways to the Page Name part as well.  There
> has been some discussion about translated Page Names being in English
> or localized.  For a Wiki document like the Developer's Guide, this is
> important because the translations are done page by page.  It makes it
> somewhat easier to keep these particular Wiki manuals in sync.
> Outside of that opinion is split.  Some people feel the page should
> be left with its English original name and localized using
> DISPLAYTITLE.  Others feel that the Page Name itself needs to be
> localized as well.  For me, from a technical maintenance standpoint,
> it's certainly easier if the page name is left in English and the
> difference between each language is just the ISO Lang code.  it makes
> it very easy to switch between languages.
> 
> On the other side is something like this example:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Calc:_ACOS_function
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/nl/How_Tos/Calc:_functie_BOOGCOS
> where a localized title was used (and needed in my opinion).
> 
> I'm not sure what the right answer is here... to me.. some places need
> it for administrative reasons, but elsewhere, it's not so important to
> have the Page Name only in English... and then localized Page Names
> make sense.

True, especially for simple searches with the wiki internal search
tool, localized titles would help. Maybe the "best" i guess would be to
have a translation of Documentation/How_Tos/Calc:_ACOS_function at
NL/Documentation/How_Tos/Calc:_ACOS_function and a redirect from 
NL/Documentation/How_Tos/Calc:_functie_BOOGCOS to that page. Really
cool would it be if we would have a extension that offers a "translate"
button next to "edit" on the english page that presents a form with:
- a dropdown of Languages
- a textfield for a localized title.
If I would fill that form for
"Documentation/How_Tos/Calc:_ACOS_function" with "NL" as language and
Calc:_functie_BOOGCOS as localized title, the following would happen:
- the english page is copied to
  NL/Documentation/How_Tos/Calc:_ACOS_function
- the Category NL is added to the created page.
- The text "This page needs to be translated to NL" is added with a
  template on top.
- a redirect from NL/Documentation/How_Tos/Calc:_BOOGCOS_function to
  NL/Documentation/How_Tos/Calc:_ACOS_function is created
- the user is presented the created page and can start translating.

Just dreamin' ;-)


Best Regards,

Bjoern
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