On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:06:17PM +0000, Wiles, Roger Keith wrote:
> Thanks Venky,
> On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Venkatesan, Venky <venky.venkatesan at 
> intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > Keith,
> > 
> > On 9/28/2014 11:04 AM, Wiles, Roger Keith wrote:
> >> I am also looking at the bulk dequeue routines, which the ring can be 
> >> fixed or variable. On fixed  < 0 on error is returned and 0 if successful. 
> >> On a variable ring < 0 on error or n on success, but I think n can be zero 
> >> in the variable case, correct?
> >> 
> >> If these are true then why not have the routines return  < 0 on error and 
> >> >= 0 on success. Which means a dequeue from a fixed ring would return only 
> >> ?requested size n? or < 0 if you error off the 0 case. The 0 case could be 
> >> OK, if you allow zero to be return on a empty ring for the fixed ring case.
> >> 
> >> Does this make sense to anyone?
> > It won't make sense unless you're aware of the history behind these 
> > functions. The original functions that were implemented for the ring were 
> > only the bulk functions (i.e. FIXED). They would return exactly the number 
> > of items requested for dequeue (0 if success, negative if error), and not 
> > return any if the required number were not available.
> > 
> > The burst (i.e. VARIABLE) functions came in much later (think it was r1.3 
> > where we introduced them), and by that time, there were already quite a 
> > number of deployments of DPDK in the field using the legacy ring functions. 
> > Therefore we made the decision to keep the legacy behavior intact & not 
> > impacting deployed code - and merging the burst functions into the code. 
> > Given that there was no "versioning" of the API/ABI in those releases :).
> 
> I see why the code is this way. If the developers used ?if ( ret == 0 ) { /* 
> do something */ }? then it would break if it returned a positive value on 
> success. I would expect the normal behavior to be ?if ( ret < 0 ) { /* error 
> case */ }? and fall thru for the success case. I would love to change the 
> code to just return <0 on error or >= 0 on success. I wonder how many 
> customers code would break changing the code to do just just the two steps. I 
> think it will remove some code in a couple places that were testing for FIXED 
> or VARIABLE?
> > 
> > Hope that helps.
> > -Venky
> > 
> >> 
> >> Thanks
> >> ++Keith
> >> 
> >> Keith Wiles, Principal Technologist with CTO office, Wind River mobile 
> >> 972-213-5533
> 
> Keith Wiles, Principal Technologist with CTO office, Wind River mobile 
> 972-213-5533
> 

Since we are looking at making considerable ABI changes in this release and 
(hopefully) also looking to version our ABI going forward, I would be in 
favour of making any changes to these APIs in this current release if 
possible. While the current behaviour makes sense for historical reason, I 
think an overall change to the behaviour as Keith describes would be more 
sensible long-term. 

(Also to note my previous suggestion about upping the major version to 2.0 
if we continue to increase the number of ABI/API changes in this release.  
Anyone else any thoughts on that?)

/Bruce

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