> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China) [mailto:gavin...@arm.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 4:23 AM
> To: Ilya Maximets <i.maxim...@samsung.com>; dev@dpdk.org
> Cc: nd <n...@arm.com>; tho...@monjalon.net; jer...@marvell.com; 
> hemant.agra...@nxp.com; nipun.gu...@nxp.com; Honnappa
> Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>; olivier.m...@6wind.com; 
> Richardson, Bruce <bruce.richard...@intel.com>; Ananyev,
> Konstantin <konstantin.anan...@intel.com>; chao...@linux.vnet.ibm.com
> Subject: RE: [PATCH v2] ring: enforce reading the tails before ring operations
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
> > Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 6:45 PM
> > To: Ilya Maximets <i.maxim...@samsung.com>; dev@dpdk.org
> > Cc: nd <n...@arm.com>; tho...@monjalon.net; jer...@marvell.com;
> > hemant.agra...@nxp.com; nipun.gu...@nxp.com; Honnappa Nagarahalli
> > <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>; olivier.m...@6wind.com;
> > bruce.richard...@intel.com; konstantin.anan...@intel.com;
> > chao...@linux.vnet.ibm.com
> > Subject: RE: [PATCH v2] ring: enforce reading the tails before ring 
> > operations
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ilya Maximets <i.maxim...@samsung.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 5:48 PM
> > > To: Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China) <gavin...@arm.com>;
> > dev@dpdk.org
> > > Cc: nd <n...@arm.com>; tho...@monjalon.net; jer...@marvell.com;
> > > hemant.agra...@nxp.com; nipun.gu...@nxp.com; Honnappa Nagarahalli
> > > <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>; olivier.m...@6wind.com
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] ring: enforce reading the tails before ring
> > > operations
> > >
> > > On 07.03.2019 12:27, Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China) wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Ilya Maximets <i.maxim...@samsung.com>
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 4:52 PM
> > > >> To: Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China) <gavin...@arm.com>;
> > > >> dev@dpdk.org
> > > >> Cc: nd <n...@arm.com>; tho...@monjalon.net; jer...@marvell.com;
> > > >> hemant.agra...@nxp.com; nipun.gu...@nxp.com; Honnappa
> > Nagarahalli
> > > >> <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>; olivier.m...@6wind.com
> > > >> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] ring: enforce reading the tails before ring
> > > >> operations
> > > >>
> > > >> On 07.03.2019 9:45, gavin hu wrote:
> > > >>> In weak memory models, like arm64, reading the {prod,cons}.tail may
> > get
> > > >>> reordered after reading or writing the ring slots, which corrupts the
> > ring
> > > >>> and stale data is observed.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This issue was reported by NXP on 8-A72 DPAA2 board. The problem
> > is
> > > >> most
> > > >>> likely caused by missing the acquire semantics when reading cons.tail
> > (in
> > > >>> SP enqueue) or prod.tail (in SC dequeue) which makes it possible to
> > > read
> > > >> a
> > > >>> stale value from the ring slots.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> For MP (and MC) case, rte_atomic32_cmpset() already provides the
> > > >> required
> > > >>> ordering. This patch is to prevent reading and writing the ring slots 
> > > >>> get
> > > >>> reordered before reading {prod,cons}.tail for SP (and SC) case.
> > > >>
> > > >> Read barrier rte_smp_rmb() is OK to prevent reading the ring get
> > > >> reordered
> > > >> before reading the tail. However, to prevent *writing* the ring get
> > > >> reordered
> > > >> *before reading* the tail you need a full memory barrier, i.e.
> > > >> rte_smp_mb().
> > > >
> > > > ISHLD(rte_smp_rmb is DMB(ishld) orders LD/LD and LD/ST, while
> > WMB(ST
> > > Option) orders ST/ST.
> > > > For more details, please refer to: Table B2-1 Encoding of the DMB and
> > DSB
> > > <option> parameter  in
> > > > https://developer.arm.com/docs/ddi0487/latest/arm-architecture-
> > > reference-manual-armv8-for-armv8-a-architecture-profile
> > >
> > > I see. But you have to change the rte_smp_rmb() function definition in
> > > lib/librte_eal/common/include/generic/rte_atomic.h and assure that all
> > > other architectures follows same rules.
> > > Otherwise, this change is logically wrong, because read barrier in current
> > > definition could not be used to order Load with Store.
> > >
> >
> > Good points, let me re-think how to handle for other architectures.
> > Full MB is required for other architectures(x86? Ppc?), but for arm, read
> > barrier(load/store and load/load) is enough.
> 
> Hi Ilya,
> 
> I would expand the rmb definition to cover load/store, in addition to 
> load/load.
> For X86, as a strong memory order model, rmb is actually equivalent to mb,

That's not exactly the case, on x86 we have:
smp_rmb == compiler_barrier
smp_mb is a proper memory barrier.

Konstantin

> as implemented as a compiler barrier: rte_compiler_barrier,
> arm32 is also this case.
> For PPC, both 32 and 64-bit, rmb=wmb=mb, lwsync/sync orders load/store, 
> load/load, store/load, store/store, looking at the table on this
> page:
> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/systems/articles/powerpc.html
> 
> In summary, we are safe to expand this definition for all the architectures 
> DPDK support?
> Any comments are welcome!
> 
> BR. Gavin
> 

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