On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 06:54:50PM +0000, Wathsala Vithanage wrote: > The function __rte_ring_headtail_move_head() assumes that the barrier > (fence) between the load of the head and the load-acquire of the > opposing tail guarantees the following: if a first thread reads tail > and then writes head and a second thread reads the new value of head > and then reads tail, then it should observe the same (or a later) > value of tail. > > This assumption is incorrect under the C11 memory model. If the barrier > (fence) is intended to establish a total ordering of ring operations, > it fails to do so. Instead, the current implementation only enforces a > partial ordering, which can lead to unsafe interleavings. In particular, > some partial orders can cause underflows in free slot or available > element computations, potentially resulting in data corruption. > > The issue manifests when a CPU first acts as a producer and later as a > consumer. In this scenario, the barrier assumption may fail when another > core takes the consumer role. A Herd7 litmus test in C11 can demonstrate > this violation. The problem has not been widely observed so far because: > (a) on strong memory models (e.g., x86-64) the assumption holds, and > (b) on relaxed models with RCsc semantics the ordering is still strong > enough to prevent hazards. > The problem becomes visible only on weaker models, when load-acquire is > implemented with RCpc semantics (e.g. some AArch64 CPUs which support > the LDAPR and LDAPUR instructions). > > Three possible solutions exist: > 1. Strengthen ordering by upgrading release/acquire semantics to > sequential consistency. This requires using seq-cst for stores, > loads, and CAS operations. However, this approach introduces a > significant performance penalty on relaxed-memory architectures. > > 2. Establish a safe partial order by enforcing a pair-wise > happens-before relationship between thread of same role by changing > the CAS and the preceding load of the head by converting them to > release and acquire respectively. This approach makes the original > barrier assumption unnecessary and allows its removal. > > 3. Retain partial ordering but ensure only safe partial orders are > committed. This can be done by detecting underflow conditions > (producer < consumer) and quashing the update in such cases. > This approach makes the original barrier assumption unnecessary > and allows its removal. > > This patch implements solution (3) for performance reasons. > > Signed-off-by: Wathsala Vithanage <wathsala.vithan...@arm.com> > Signed-off-by: Ola Liljedahl <ola.liljed...@arm.com> > Reviewed-by: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com> > Reviewed-by: Dhruv Tripathi <dhruv.tripa...@arm.com> > --- > lib/ring/rte_ring_c11_pvt.h | 10 +++++++--- > 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) > Thank you for the very comprehensive write-up in the article about this. It was very educational.
On the patch, are we sure that option #3 is safe to take as an approach? It seems wrong to me to deliberately leave ordering issues in the code and just try and fix them up later. Would there be a noticable performance difference for real-world apps if we took option #2, and actually used correct ordering semantics? I realise the perf data in the blog post about this shows it being slower, but for enqueues and dequeues of bursts, of e.g. 8, rather than just 1, is there a very big delta? Regards, /Bruce