On 03/14/2018 07:53 PM, Burakov, Anatoly wrote:
On 14-Mar-18 4:12 PM, Andrew Rybchenko wrote:
On 03/14/2018 05:40 PM, Burakov, Anatoly wrote:
On 10-Mar-18 3:39 PM, Andrew Rybchenko wrote:
The callback was introduced to let generic code to know octeontx
mempool driver requirements to use single physically contiguous
memory chunk to store all objects and align object address to
total object size. Now these requirements are met using a new
callbacks to calculate required memory chunk size and to populate
objects using provided memory chunk.

These capability flags are not used anywhere else.

Restricting capabilities to flags is not generic and likely to
be insufficient to describe mempool driver features. If required
in the future, API which returns structured information may be
added.

Signed-off-by: Andrew Rybchenko <arybche...@solarflare.com>
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Just a general comment - it is not enough to describe minimum memchunk requirements. With memory hotplug patchset that's hopefully getting merged in 18.05, memzones will no longer be guaranteed to be IOVA-contiguous. So, if a driver requires its mempool to not only be populated from a single memzone, but a single *physically contiguous* memzone, going by only callbacks will not do, because whether or not something should be a single memzone says nothing about whether this memzone has to also be IOVA-contiguous.

So i believe this needs to stay in one form or another.

(also it would be nice to have a flag that a user could pass to mempool_create that would force memzone reservation be IOVA-contiguous, but that's a topic for another conversation. prime user for this would be KNI.)

I think that min_chunk_size should be treated as IOVA-contiguous.

Why? It's perfectly reasonable to e.g. implement a software mempool driver that would perform some optimizations due to all objects being in the same VA-contiguous memzone, yet not be dependent on underlying physical memory layout. These are two separate concerns IMO.

It looks like there is some misunderstanding here or I simply don't understand your point. Above I mean that driver should be able to advertise its requirements on IOVA-contiguous regions.
If driver do not care about physical memory layout, no problem.

> So, we
have 4 levels:
  - MEMPOOL_F_NO_PHYS_CONTIG (min_chunk_size == 0) -- IOVA-congtiguous is not required at all   - no MEMPOOL_F_NO_PHYS_CONTIG (min_chunk_size == total_obj_size) -- object should be IOVA-contiguous   - min_chunk_size > total_obj_size  -- group of objects should be IOVA-contiguous   - min_chunk_size == <all-objects-size> -- all objects should be IOVA-contiguous

I don't think this "automagic" decision on what should be IOVA-contiguous or not is the way to go. It needlessly complicates things, when all it takes is another flag passed to mempool allocator somewhere.

No, it is not just one flag. We really need option (3) above: group of objects IOVA-contiguous in [1]. Of course, it is possible to use option (4) instead: everything IOVA-contigous, but I think it is bad - it may be very big and hard/impossible to allocate due to fragmentation.

I'm not sure what is the best solution here. Perhaps another option would be to let mempool drivers allocate their memory as well? I.e. leave current behavior as default, as it's likely that it would be suitable for nearly all use cases, but provide another option to override memory allocation completely, so that e.g. octeontx could just do a memzone_reserve_contig() without regard for default allocation settings. I think this could be the cleanest solution.

For me it is hard to say. I don't know DPDK history good enough to say why there is a mempool API to populate objects on externally provided memory. If it may be removed, it is OK for me to do memory allocation inside rte_mempool or mempool drivers. Otherwise, if it is still allowed to allocate memory externally and pass it to mempool, it must be a way to express IOVA-contiguos requirements.

[1] https://dpdk.org/dev/patchwork/patch/34338/



If so, how allocation should be implemented?
  1. if (min_chunk_size > min_page_size)
     a. try all contiguous
     b. if cannot, do by mem_chunk_size contiguous
  2. else allocate non-contiguous

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Andrew.



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