+1 Still rolling out but looks good for what I've seen so far
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 10:39 AM Charles Allen <charles.al...@snap.com.invalid> wrote: > Oh probably. Long story short: approximately equivalent, new release has > slightly tucked in long tail on the bad side of query time (but also few > samples in the long tail overall). > > > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 10:37 AM Gian Merlino <g...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Nice!! > > > > Although I don't see the graphic attached, maybe the mailing list ate it? > > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 4:15 PM Charles Allen <charles.al...@snap.com > > .invalid> > > wrote: > > > > > Blue is 0.12.2 with some minor backports not perf related. Red is from > > the > > > 0.11.x series. This is effectively a bucketed PDF of the query times > for > > a > > > live cluster with Timeseries queries as self-reported by historical > > nodes. > > > I mentioned elsewhere I'm not convinced query/time is a good proxy for > > user > > > experience, but it does provide a good baseline for comparisons between > > > versions. Low query times are suspected due to some aggressive caching > or > > > complete node misses (node very little data for that time range for > that > > > datasource). And high query time outliers are often the result of bad > GC. > > > > > > On our side there is a new java version going out with the 0.12.2 > > > deployment so it is unclear how much is attributed to the new java > > version > > > and how much is attributed to the druid jars or other config changes. > > > Overall things seem to consistently display a small % improvement in > the > > > mean with our internal 0.12.2 release. This is good! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Charles Allen > > > > > > [image: Screen Shot 2018-08-08 at 4.01.24 PM.png] > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 3:11 PM David Lim <david...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > >> +1, thank you! > > >> > > >> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 3:16 PM Jonathan Wei <jon...@apache.org> > wrote: > > >> > > >> > +1, thanks Jihoon! > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Jihoon Son <jihoon...@apache.org> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > Awesome! Thanks Charles! > > >> > > > > >> > > Jihoon > > >> > > > > >> > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:16 PM Gian Merlino <g...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks, it will be nice to see! > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:15 PM Charles Allen < > > >> charles.al...@snap.com > > >> > > > .invalid> > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I don't think it should be a blocker to release, but I have to > > run > > >> > perf > > >> > > > > tests for rollouts anyways so I figured I'd publish what I > find > > >> :-P > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Cheers, > > >> > > > > Charles Allen > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:33 PM Gian Merlino <g...@apache.org > > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > That being said, Charles I am definitely looking forward to > > your > > >> > > report > > >> > > > > of > > >> > > > > > what the upgrade from 0.11 -> 0.12.2-rc1 is like in your > > >> cluster! > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:30 PM Gian Merlino < > g...@apache.org > > > > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > My thought is that recently we have started doing small > > >> bug-fix > > >> > > > > releases > > >> > > > > > > more often (0.12.1 and 0.12.2 were both small releases) > and > > I > > >> > think > > >> > > > it > > >> > > > > > > makes sense to continue this practice. It makes sense to > get > > >> them > > >> > > out > > >> > > > > > > quickly, since shipping bug fixes is good. IMO trying to > > >> validate > > >> > > bug > > >> > > > > fix > > >> > > > > > > releases within the customary Apache style 72 hour voting > > >> period > > >> > > is a > > >> > > > > > good > > >> > > > > > > goal. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On the other hand we do strive to put out high quality > > >> releases, > > >> > > and > > >> > > > we > > >> > > > > > > don't want bug fix releases to introduce regressions. > > Testing > > >> > every > > >> > > > > > single > > >> > > > > > > patch in real clusters is an important part of that. All I > > >> can do > > >> > > is > > >> > > > > > > encourage people running real clusters to deploy RCs as > fast > > >> as > > >> > > they > > >> > > > > can! > > >> > > > > > > Fwiw, we have already incorporated all the 0.12.2 patches > > into > > >> > our > > >> > > > > Imply > > >> > > > > > > distro of Druid and already have a good number users > running > > >> > them. > > >> > > So > > >> > > > > my > > >> > > > > > +1 > > >> > > > > > > earlier incorporated knowledge that the patches have been > > >> > validated > > >> > > > in > > >> > > > > > that > > >> > > > > > > way. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I agree with Jihoon that we will probably end up doing an > > >> 0.12.3 > > >> > > > soon, > > >> > > > > to > > >> > > > > > > fix the issues he mentioned and a couple of others as > well. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:07 PM Jihoon Son < > > >> jihoon...@apache.org > > >> > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Charles, thank you for doing performance evaluation! > > >> Performance > > >> > > > > numbers > > >> > > > > > >> are always good and helpful. > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> However, IMO, any kind of performance degradation > shouldn't > > >> be a > > >> > > > > blocker > > >> > > > > > >> for this release. 0.12.2 is a minor release and contains > > only > > >> > bug > > >> > > > > fixes. > > >> > > > > > >> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-druid/pull/5878/files > > is > > >> > the > > >> > > > only > > >> > > > > > one > > >> > > > > > >> tagged with 'Performance', but it can be regarded as a > more > > >> > like a > > >> > > > > code > > >> > > > > > >> bug > > >> > > > > > >> rather than architectural performance issue. > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> Instead, those kinds of performance tests should be > > performed > > >> > per > > >> > > > > major > > >> > > > > > >> release to catch any kinds of unexpected performance > > change. > > >> > They > > >> > > > can > > >> > > > > > be a > > >> > > > > > >> blocker if we find any performance regression. > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> Also, if you find any performance regression for this > > >> release, > > >> > we > > >> > > > > > probably > > >> > > > > > >> make another minor release. I think some bug fixes (e.g., > > >> > > > > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-druid/issues/6124, > > >> > > > > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-druid/issues/6123) > are > > >> also > > >> > > > worth > > >> > > > > > to > > >> > > > > > >> be > > >> > > > > > >> included in the minor release. > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> What do you think? > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> Best, > > >> > > > > > >> Jihoon > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 10:18 AM Charles Allen > > >> > > > > > >> <charles.al...@snap.com.invalid> wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > I'm hoping to have some numbers for any performance > > >> changes or > > >> > > > other > > >> > > > > > >> > impacts in the next few days (rollouts on big clusters > > >> take a > > >> > > long > > >> > > > > > >> time). I > > >> > > > > > >> > am neutral until the numbers come in. Preliminary > > >> indicators > > >> > > show > > >> > > > no > > >> > > > > > >> > significant regression since the 0.11.x series. More > data > > >> is > > >> > > > > expected > > >> > > > > > >> to be > > >> > > > > > >> > available in a few days as rollout completes. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 9:10 AM Himanshu < > > >> g.himan...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > +1 , thanks for coordinating it. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 8:05 PM, Gian Merlino < > > >> > g...@apache.org > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > +1. Thank you Jihoon for running this release. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 10:04 AM Jihoon Son < > > >> > > > > jihoon...@apache.org> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Sure, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > the release note is available here: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-druid/issues/6116. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Best, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Jihoon > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 10:02 AM Charles Allen < > > >> > > > > > cral...@apache.org > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ((don't let this ask block the release)) > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Is there a way to get a preview of what the > > release > > >> > > notice > > >> > > > > > will > > >> > > > > > >> > look > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > like? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 3:38 PM Fangjin Yang < > > >> > > > > fang...@imply.io > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > +1 > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Jihoon Son < > > >> > > > > > >> jihoon...@apache.org > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi all, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Druid 0.12.2-rc1 ( > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__druid. > > >> > > io_downloads.html&d=DwIBaQ&c=ncDTmphkJTvjIDPh0hpF_w&r= > > >> > > HrLGT1qWNhseJBMYABL0GFSZESht5gBoLejor3SqMSo&m= > > >> > > > jpC6qqjxYOq5XtNdLQ8U99CX0aj4Qn7oNQCLnjJ_v-Y&s=wdtYVmGEMAXuXYDvVCvJ_ > > >> > > u6CKSIShdGKA2DpgjX9lfE&e= > > >> > > > > > >> > ) > > >> > > > > > >> > > is available > > >> > > > > > >> > > > now, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > and > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > think it's time to vote on the 0.12.2 > > release. > > >> > > Please > > >> > > > > note > > >> > > > > > >> that > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 0.12.2 > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > is > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > not an ASF release. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Here is my +1. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Best, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Jihoon > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >