If the RT is acceptable between the data center, this usage is perfectly
fine.

-Ian.

On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 5:47 PM zhi_guang_...@163.com <zhi_guang_...@163.com>
wrote:

> I have a similar Question as this mail:
> Is Dubbo designed for use on internet?
> I have just join a company last year and our business is all around the
> world.
> So we have servers on US and ASIA and EU.
> In this condition we use dubbo on internet and keep security by security
> rules that only allow the servers connect to each other.
>
> I think this is not a  pretty useage of dubbo,but I cann't find Strong
> evidences to change the situation.
>
> Can any one help me to answer this questions? Thanks a lot.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> 您的朋友:刘志广
>
>
> *From:* Yuhao Bi <byh0...@gmail.com>
> *Date:* 2019-01-22 22:55
> *To:* dev <dev@dubbo.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [DISCUSS]: Some thoughts on What Dubbo 3.0 is, we really
> should start it ASAP
> Hi lan and community,
>
> Although I have already heard "Dubbo" a few years ago,
> but I just started to learn dubbo after the meetup last year in Chengdu
> after it became the Apache Dubbo.
> Maybe I'm not such that familiar with the underlying details, but after
> the continuous participated
> I feel like a part of the community, and free to share my opinion.
>
> So, here is my question and also consider it my suggestion:
> Should we care more about Security? How can we prevent from unauthorized
> remote call?
> - Should we support Authentication and Authorization
> - Should we add Spring Security or Active Directory Service support at the
> framework level
>
> Thanks,
> Yuhao
>
>
> jun liu <ken.lj...@gmail.com> 于2019年1月22日周二 下午5:50写道:
>
> > > I think the online integration test and performance test environment
> > should
> > > be set up for the new features.
> >
> > Agree!  We should start as soon as possible, from 2.7.x.
> >
> > Jun
> >
> > > On Jan 22, 2019, at 5:43 PM, Xin Wang <xin.victorw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the online integration test and performance test environment
> > should
> > > be set up for the new features.
> > >
> > > Ian Luo <ian....@gmail.com> 于2019年1月22日周二 下午3:04写道:
> > >
> > >> Yuhao, good idea.
> > >>
> > >> BTW, do you have any thought on what Dubbo 3.0 should be?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> -Ian.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 2:39 PM Yuhao Bi <byh0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Once we have decided what to do in the next.
> > >>> Should we have a website page to publish it? e.g. [1]
> > >>>
> > >>> [1]. https://phoenix.apache.org/roadmap.html
> > >>>
> > >>> yuneng xie <xieyun...@gmail.com> 于2019年1月22日周二 下午2:25写道:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi Ian Luo,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> OK, i'd start to work on it soon.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ian Luo <ian....@gmail.com> 于2019年1月17日周四 下午2:01写道:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Yuneng,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sounds interesting. I am especially interested in reactive
> > >> programming
> > >>>>> support. Pls. go ahead to try implement it on 3.x branch.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>> -Ian.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 11:03 AM yuneng xie <xieyun...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi folks,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I agreed with Ian Luo on the improvement list. I also got some
> idea
> > >>> in
> > >>>> my
> > >>>>>> mind.  I'd just share with you two points below in detail which
> i'm
> > >>>> most
> > >>>>>> interested in right now.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 1. Upgrade  the core abstraction "Invoker", which works in sync
> > >> mode,
> > >>>> to
> > >>>>> an
> > >>>>>> abstraction works in async mode. then we can construct
> > >>>>>> InvocationChain/FilterChain that works in async mode.  A core
> > >>>> abstraction
> > >>>>>> works in async mode would simplify the sync/async logic. We  no
> > >>> longer
> > >>>>> need
> > >>>>>> to repeat the logic about sync-mode/async-mode in each
> > >>> ProtocolInvoker.
> > >>>>>> ProtocolInvoker could concentrate on async logic and we could
> > >> handle
> > >>>>>> sync-mode invoke all in once by wrapping the AsyncInvocationChain
> > >>> into
> > >>>> a
> > >>>>>> SyncInvocationChain.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 2. Support using stream-value (Fowable, Flux...)  as
> > >>> param/returnType.
> > >>>>>> really a nice feature.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Please let me known your opinion on my points. I'm also glad to
> > >> just
> > >>>> give
> > >>>>>> it a try and raise a pr.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Ian Luo <ian....@gmail.com> 于2019年1月10日周四 下午6:00写道:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi folks,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Finally we managed to ramp down version 2.7.0 development, and
> > >>>>> hopefully
> > >>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>> can start the vote in the early of the next week. But the main
> > >>>> purpose
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>>>> this email is not a release announcement. Instead, since we now
> > >>> have
> > >>>>>>> bandwidth, let's consider and discuss what we should focus out
> > >> from
> > >>>>> many
> > >>>>>>> stuff we want to do. For example, we may focus more on issue and
> > >>> pull
> > >>>>>>> request on GitHub, or we may plan 2.7 minor releases immediately
> > >>>> after
> > >>>>> we
> > >>>>>>> release 2.7.0. But today I'd like to bring up one longer term
> > >> plan
> > >>>>> which
> > >>>>>>> I'm now caring most, that is, how we define what version 3.0 is?
> > >>> and
> > >>>>> when
> > >>>>>>> can we get start on it? In my opinion, we need to start it right
> > >>> from
> > >>>>>> this
> > >>>>>>> moment.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I recalled Liujie Qin (@liujieqin) initialed the discussion on
> > >> the
> > >>>> same
> > >>>>>>> topic [1] in July this year. I summarize his points here if you
> > >> are
> > >>>> too
> > >>>>>>> impatient to read through the contents of his email :p:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 1. Need to enhance the current extension mechanism
> > >>>>>>> 2. Need to enhance the code base for better maintenance
> > >>>>>>> 3. Need to support async
> > >>>>>>> 4. Need to decouple registry server and config server
> > >>>>>>> 5. Need to support Java8 and above so that we can use advanced
> > >>>> features
> > >>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>> Dubbo's core
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I agree with most of his points in this good proposal.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Here I'd like to initial a discussion on how we define Dubbo 3.0,
> > >>> or
> > >>>> in
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> other word, how do the community expect from Dubbo 3.0. In my
> > >>>> opinion,
> > >>>>> I
> > >>>>>>> think we need to answer the following questions in this major
> > >>>> release:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> - Today the boundary between messaging and remoting call gets
> > >> blur.
> > >>>> We
> > >>>>>> may
> > >>>>>>> need to consider to support streaming at the protocol level.
> > >>>>>>> - Reative programming and its fundamental FP start to get
> > >> adopted.
> > >>> We
> > >>>>>>> should consider to support it.
> > >>>>>>> - Dubbo should be redesigned to support async better, and treats
> > >>>> async
> > >>>>> as
> > >>>>>>> the first class citizen. We do support async feature in 2.7.0
> > >>> release
> > >>>>> but
> > >>>>>>> it is not so perfect.
> > >>>>>>> - Micro-services has been widely adopted. How Dubbo works
> > >>> seamlessly
> > >>>>> with
> > >>>>>>> micro-services becomes a question mark. We need to look into the
> > >>>>> inter-op
> > >>>>>>> between Dubbo and micro-services's registry server/config server.
> > >>> The
> > >>>>>>> support on separating registry server and config server in 2.7.0
> > >>>>> release
> > >>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>> a good start, but there are still lots of further works remaining
> > >>>> with
> > >>>>> no
> > >>>>>>> doubt.
> > >>>>>>> - Once we conquer seamless micro-services support, we still need
> > >> to
> > >>>>> take
> > >>>>>>> one step further to think about K8S integration. After all, K8S
> > >> and
> > >>>>>> service
> > >>>>>>> mesh built above it are now considered the best way for
> > >>>> micro-services
> > >>>>>>> deployment.
> > >>>>>>> - How we define mini-dubbo, or phrase in another way, what the
> > >>>> minimal
> > >>>>>>> feature set we should define for Dubbo framework. The reason
> > >> behind
> > >>>>> this
> > >>>>>>> is, it is very helpful for developing more language supports from
> > >>> the
> > >>>>>>> community. This also means, we need to modularize Dubbo further,
> > >> to
> > >>>>> make
> > >>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>> a reference implementation for other languages.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> In short, I suggest we need to focus on streaming protocol,
> > >> Rx/FP,
> > >>>>> native
> > >>>>>>> async, micro-services support, refactor/modularize areas. Of
> > >>> course,
> > >>>>>> there
> > >>>>>>> are more I don't mention in this email, for examples: how we make
> > >>>> Dubbo
> > >>>>>>> more resilient? how we support HTTP/2? and more.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Pls. let me know your opinion on what I and Liujie proposed, and
> > >>>> share
> > >>>>>> your
> > >>>>>>> thought on what kind of features really matter to you.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>> -Ian.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 1. Proposal for Dubbo 3.0 from liujie...@apache.org on
> > >>>>>>> dev@dubbo.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
>

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