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On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 5:42 PM Mark Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 04/04/2019 03:26, Huxing Zhang wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > According to [1], in the "Preparing a Charter" section, we need to > > decide PMC chair. > > Just to nitpick here. > > The PMC does not decide on who is the chair. The board does. > > The PMC makes a recommendation to the board as to who should be > appointed the PMC chair. The board nearly always accepts that > recommendation. Understand, what I mean is to decide the recommendation :-) > > > This is previously discussed on the "[DISCUSS] Graduate Apache > > Dubbo(incubating) as a Top Level Project" thread, but it looks like it > > is easily ignored. Therefore I am starting a dedicated thread to > > discuss this. > > > > I personally am suggesting Ian Luo as PMC chair. Ian is leading the > > Dubbo project, and has rich experience in RPC/service framework. I > > think he is the best candidate. > > Leading is a word that always makes me nervous around ASF projects. By saying leading, I mean to say skills like technical foresight, sophisticated understanding of the architecture and underlying implementation, and etc. to drive the project forward. I think every project/community will have one or more folk like this. I do not mean to say one has more power over others. In Apache, all the PMC members are equal. > > The role of PMC chair is an unusual one. PMC chairs are officers of the > foundation and, as such, have quite a lot of authority. However, if they > ever need to use that authority then it usually means things have gone > very badly wrong. Just adding some more information about what PMC chair is, and what it the responsibility. PMC CHAIR The Chair of a Project Management Committee (PMC) is appointed by the Board from the PMC Members. The PMC as a whole is the entity that controls and leads the project. The Chair is the interface between the Board and the Project. PMC Chairs have specific duties[1][2], which is briefly described here: - SUBSCRIBE TO THE BOARD@ MAILING LIST - REVIEW BOARD MEETING MINUTES ABOUT THEIR PROJECT - ENSURE THE PROJECT'S QUARTERLY BOARD REPORT IS SUBMITTED - ENSURE NEW COMMITTER REQUESTS ARE MADE - SEND NOTICES AND FOLLOWUP WHEN ADDING NEW PMC MEMBERS - MAINTAIN ASF RECORDS ON THE PMC ROSTER [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair [2] https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/foundation/officers/advice-for-new-pmc-chairs.txt > > If everything is working as it should, the role of PMC chair is mostly > an admin role. Applying for new accounts, writing quarterly reports, etc. > > The most important part of a PMC chair's role is to write quarterly > reports for the board that *accurately* describe the current state of > the project community. Note: not the technical state of the project, but > the state of the project community. I'd strongly recommend reading > through the minutes of the last few board meetings to get an idea of > what makes a good project report in the eyes of the board. I have added the link here[3] so that the community can take a look. [3] http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2019/board_minutes_2019_02_20.txt > > Mark -- Best Regards！ Huxing
