HTTP/2 support and Cloud Native Microservices are definitely two important
goals we should achieve in this year, and I am looking forward to reading
your proposal. Meanwhile, I think we should discuss and come up with a
draft roadmap for the incoming whole year so that it will make the
community easier to participate.

What do you think, Jun?

Thanks,
-Ian.


On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 9:46 PM Jun Liu <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, All
>
> I am writing this mail to discuss about our work in the next stage, some
> trends we should follow, or even what Dubbo should be next.
>
> Approximately from last year, there have been some discussions and
> thoughts in the community about how Dubbo should following or leading the
> tech trend in its area. With this goal in mind, I recently spent some time
> trying to dive deep in some related techs. Here I want to express some of
> my points regarding the two most discussed topics in our community, they
> are, HTTP/2 protocol and Cloud Native.
>
> 1.  http/2. Considering that gRPC has done a great job upon HTTP/2 and the
> extraordinary influence it achieved in the industry. I think it should be a
> non-negligible part for us to take into consideration when talking about
> this topic. Actually, I would suggest we first consider integrating gRPC
> into our framework to 1. to leverage Dubbo's more powerful service
> management ability 2. quickly bring Dubbo HTTP/2 support.  This is suitable
> to be done in 2.7.x. In the long run, I think we may need to provide
> built-in HTTP/2 support, which may require a standard HTTP/2 application
> layer protocol (compatible with GRPC can be an option), and introduce
> application level streaming semantics. This is suitable to be done in 3.x.
>
> 2. Microservices and Cloud Native. When comes to this topic, the most
> obvious thing to notice is the mismatch of the service model between Dubbo
> and Microservices architecture. Our definition of services is based on
> Interface, one Interface is intercepted as a service, while the
> Microservices architecture,  Application is the first-class citizen, you
> can consider an Application as a service, interfaces are only see as
> metadas inside the service. This mismatch makes service discovery, service
> management and any introps very difficult or even impossible. I like the
> Microservice's model more than Dubbo's and I think we should start
> reconsidering our service model. I would restrict the discussion about
> Cloud Native to K8S here, I continuely see issue asking about Dubbo running
> on K8S. I think this question on root is about how to leverage the service
> discovery and container orchestration capabilities provided by K8S.
>
> This time I think we should not just stay in discussion, instead, we need
> to go to the next phase to come up with some practical solutions, make them
> part of our milestone and realize them. If you agree with the opinions I
> put forward above, I am glad to try to write down some of my recent
> researchs into a draft proposal. Then we can further discuss on some of the
> details and finally make it a practical one.
>
> Ken
>
>

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