Yes. I think so. That is why I am asking them to keep project documents and websites in dual languages.
Sheng Wu 吴晟 Apache SkyWalking, Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating), Zipkin Twitter, wusheng1108 Danny Angus <danny.an...@gmail.com> 于2019年9月2日周一 下午1:47写道： > This raises a question for me, if you are finding it hard to increase > contributors, could this be related to using Chinese? I would hypothesise > that using English for all things would make it harder for some Chinese > speakers to contribute, but much easier for people who don't speak Chinese > to get involved with the project. > Just my 2c > Danny > > On Sun, 25 Aug 2019, 5:03 am Sheng Wu, <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Echarts PPMC and contributor team >> >> From the ECharts incubator report, Echarts is facing serious issues of >> following the Apache way. >> ECharts has been in Apache Incubator 1.5 years, which is a long time. But >> the ECharts still acts like a GitHub OSS, rather than Apache project. >> In Apache, we are helping project believing the Apache way, rather than >> convincing or forcing project to do something. The progress of ECharts >> makes a lot of concerns in Incubator. >> As in my personal connection w/ ECharts PPMC members, Wenli and Zhongyi, >> they still think Echarts want to be part of the foundation, I am doing this >> review report as a shepherd perspective. >> >> I hope the following *SERIOUS* issues could be fixed as quickly as >> possible, and showing the incubator ECharts community is embracing the >> Apache Wa >> >> 1. Mail list communication. Today, Mail list has very little traffic, any >> decision made is not forwarding to it, even if some discussions happen at >> GitHub. >> 2. Chinese is still widely used in GitHub. I am also a native Mandarin >> speaker, but the purpose of being in the Foundation is looking forward to >> wider/global users, so we need English. Translation service could be used >> if the PPMC think English is a block. But for my personal perspective, >> maybe many people English is not very good, but good enough to understand. >> The community just needs to be guided. >> 3. Serious Branding Issue. https://echarts.baidu.com/ needs to be >> abandoned, including Baidu advertising in this page >> 4. Community build lacked. Developer lacked. From my OSS experiences, js >> project should have more codes contributors, especially for a widely-used >> project like ECharts. Even I know, there are different ways to project >> contributions, but still too less. Only 7 contribute codes over 100 lines. >> At the same time, the top 2 contribute 100k+ and 5k+ lines. This is more >> serious issue than just diversity lacked. If the top 2 left or are busy in >> some cases, the project would stop. >> 5. Mentors feel without PPMC and community feedback/support. Mentors from >> Foundations are volunteers to offer help, these help only work when you are >> willing to learn. I don't have so much to say about this, this depends on >> PPMC and contributor team willings. >> 6. Who will do mental lead? The community in Apache should be(but not yet >> for ECharts) diversity, but I hope/think someone from PPMC could step out, >> do the lead. Such as starting the discussion about report, feature roadmap, >> release plan, community event. This could be not a single individual, but >> really require PPMC show up. >> 7. No one update the Incubator status page. >> https://incubator.apache.org/projects/echarts.html No progress shows >> there. >> 8. Chinese and English websites are not the same. As a native Mandarin, >> this issue shows up. This should not happen. Chinese website should be a >> translation version only, nothing more. >> 9. Why master branch codes have a big gap with the release version. In >> release page, https://github.com/apache/incubator-echarts/releases, the >> number of commit differences keep > 300. Why? Where is the real release >> code? >> 10. Unofficial release page with unexpected releases. >> https://echarts.apache.org/zh/dist/, list in ZH website, >> https://echarts.apache.org/zh/download.html. But not showing at EN page. >> I don't know what are they. >> 11. A lot of unofficial releases show up in GitHub release page. >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-echarts/releases. In the release >> page, only 4.2.1 and 4.1.0(I assume these two passed the incubator votes). >> In that release page, a lot of releases made by core contributor with >> changelog. >> 12. Official GitHub page pointing download page to 3rd party pages, >> including EN. https://github.com/apache/incubator-echarts#get-echarts >> 13. Branding issue about `Official Extensions`( >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-echarts#official-extensions). If it >> is official, it should be hosted in Apache, but clearly, they are not. >> 14. Branding even IP issue about `Developers Contributions`, listed in >> official GitHub readme. >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-echarts#developers-contributions. >> Many individual names listed there, are they part of ECharts? >> >> Suggestions >> Please PPMC could consider to work on the report(even not officially for >> Incubator), which help you to review the project. >> >> All above opinions are myself only. >> I am going to help review if you have report rather than I need to spend >> several hours to review your repo, website and all other resources. >> >> You have many riche experienced mentors, please work with them ASAP. >> >> >> Sheng Wu 吴晟 >> >> Apache SkyWalking, Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating), Apache Incubator >> Twitter, wusheng1108 >> >
