> On Nov 13, 2019, at 12:33 PM, SHUANG SU <sushuang0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
>> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <http://echarts.apache.org/>
> 
> I have been testing this CDN for a while in the network of my working place
> and home in Beijing.
> It seams faster then the current CDN. The speed is not unacceptable in the
> most place but
> somewhere and sometime there are little slow cases.
> 
> Shall we change our current CDN to this new CDN above? It probably provide
> better speed.
> And I can also test it in different place around China via some services.

Yes. Please open a JIRA issue in INFRA with a reference to this email thread.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> 
> Thanks,
> ------------------------------
> Su Shuang (100pah)
> ------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 14:14, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi York,
>> 
>> We are still testing the speed of the new CDN.
>> 
>> In the meantime, do you have any comparing numbers about the speed before
>> and after Weex using this CDN?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Wenli
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:05 PM YorkShen <ky...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just create a JIRA issue to INFRA, they will handle your request.
>>> 
>>> FYI: After you enable experimental CDN, you will need to wait several
>> hours
>>> for China CDN cache refreshing each time you deploy the website. But if
>> you
>>> visit your website through a VPN hosted in USA/India, then everything
>> takes
>>> effect immediately. I think this is a side effect of the experimental
>> CDN.
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> YorkShen
>>> 
>>> 申远
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2019年10月31日周四 下午2:33写道:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
>>>> Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how we
>>> could
>>>> enable it?
>>>> 
>>>> Wenli
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen <ky...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, there
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer
>> and
>>>>> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but
>>> things go
>>>>> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope
>> this
>>>>> could also solve your problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> York Shen
>>>>> 
>>>>> 申远
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
>>>>>> 1. Open google analytics
>>>>>> 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
>>>>>> 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing
>>>>> list,
>>>>>> so I will skip the screenshot. :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen <shenyi....@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document
>>>>> page.
>>>>>>> Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in
>> different
>>>>> regions
>>>>>>> and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't
>>> do
>>>>> this
>>>>>>> kind of thing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks Dave.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th
>>>>> June. [1]
>>>>>>>>> You should have received invitations emails from Google
>>> Analytics
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for
>>> email,
>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> those who don't
>>>>>>>> have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail
>>>>> account
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you need any help to access either of them, please let me
>> know.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data
>> to
>>>>> help
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>> decisions in the following emails.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Wenli,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I
>>>>> would
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to
>>> make
>>>>>>>>> decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this
>> mailing
>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The community deserves to understand how the project's
>> resources
>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> monitored.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a
>> try.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji,
>>>>> similar
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> Google Analytics.
>>>>>>>>>> In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji
>>> and
>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>>>> Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses
>> the
>>>>>>> analytics
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics
>>>>> misses 50%
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> page views from China.
>>>>>>>>>> So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and
>> Google
>>>>>>>> Analytics.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js
>> of
>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>>>> Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But
>>>>> neither
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think
>>> may
>>>>> not
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> big issue.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher <
>> w...@apache.org
>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a
>> new
>>>>> JIRA
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif
>>>>> which
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu.
>> I
>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@
>>> mailing
>>>>> list,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There is an AzureCDN that can be tried:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can ask
>>>>> INFRA to
>>>>>>>>> switch
>>>>>>>>>>> CDNs.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ovilia <
>> oviliazh...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The JIRA ticket hasn't been replied by the infra for a
>>> month,
>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>> because it's been closed.
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
>>>>>>>>>>>> Should I open a new one, because I cannot re-open it?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:52 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
>>>>>>> kmcgr...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2019 6:31 AM, Ovilia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kevin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you please copy your last email to the JIRA [1]
>> and
>>>>>>> continue
>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's quite inconvenient to have the conversation both on
>>>>> JIRA and
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Kevin A. McGrail <
>>>>>>>> kmcgr...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Kevin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've updated this information on JIRA [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for the cost issue, we have a budget to cover it
>> from
>>>>> Baidu
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further discussion on the details if we decide to take
>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> approach.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the goals I see are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A) get the site up on echarts.apache.org running on
>> ASF
>>>>>>>>>>> Infrastructure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is goal #1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B) see if we can make it faster with ASF InfraStructure
>>>>> and a
>>>>>>> CDN
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid step C but realizing that step C is likely
>>>>> necessary...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C) provide a Chinese mirror of the echarts website that
>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more usable for people from China.  For me, I thought
>>>>> about all
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policies and Apache Way.  I believe done with these
>> steps
>>>>> laid
>>>>>>>> out,
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is fine and within the jurisdiction of the project to
>>>>> decide:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - a 100% mirror of the ASF site, nothing different,
>> that
>>>>> runs
>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subdomain such as zh.echarts.apache.org and
>>> automatically
>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> synced
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the echarts.apache.org server.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - A banner or something on echarts.apache.org/zh that
>>>>>>>>>>> recommends/links
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using zh.echarts.apache.org/zh for faster speed if
>> they
>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Release downloads still link to ASF Infrastructure,
>>> e.g.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/echarts/4.2.1/apache-echarts-4.2.1-incubating-src.zip.asc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Question: are downloads problematically slow or they
>> are
>>>>> just a
>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds slow and people don't complain about it because
>>>>> it's a
>>>>>>>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than an interactive website?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Baidu donates the hostingso there are no financial
>>>>> impacts to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> ASF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - If any recognition of the donation is given, we make
>>>>> sure to
>>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fundraising targeted sponsorship policy (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/Targeted-Sponsorship-Policy.pdf)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which basically means it has to be approved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - And of course, the project PPMC votes to do this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KAM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kmcgr...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Yi Shen
>>>>>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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