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> On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the information, Dave.
> 
> How can we test the new CDN? Is there a notice Website for the information
> or could you share the IP with us please?

To be clear - please retest the two that have already been tried.

There were performance issues discovered recently with *.apache.org. These may 
have impacted your results.

If you have an offer for an Apache.org mirror in
China then please discuss on private@. That will take some efforts and there 
are no guarantees.

Regards,
Dave
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Wenli
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 12:54 AM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi ECharts team,
>> 
>> Infrastructure has been making changes to the main Apache.com website to
>> separate out some of the downloading functionality due to stability issues.
>> These may have impacted your experience with the CDNs.
>> 
>> I think it would be good to perform another test of the two CDNs.
>> 
>> In addition we can discuss on private@ a mirror proposal which neither
>> Kevin nor I can approve. Such a proposal would need to be evaluated by the
>> Infrastructure and perhaps Fundraising teams.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Mar 2, 2020, at 6:13 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ovilia, What are the technical steps for the mirror you envision and
>> I can weigh in more?
>>> --
>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail <
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail> - 703.798.0171
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:35 AM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com <mailto:
>> oviliazh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Dear mentors,
>>> 
>>> What else can we do about this? What should we do if we wish to make the
>> mirror site happen?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Wenli
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 7:29 PM SHUANG SU <sushuang0...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:sushuang0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> ---
>>> GroupA: (
>> https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg <
>> https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg>)
>>> <Screen Shot 2020-02-20 at 6.54.35 PM.png>
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> GroupB: (
>> https://www.echartsjs.com/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg <
>> https://www.echartsjs.com/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg>)
>>> <Screen Shot 2020-02-20 at 6.55.01 PM.png>
>>> 
>>> Each test case is repeat several times and the result are roughly
>> similar.
>>> It seams that in lots of place http://echarts.apache.org <
>> http://echarts.apache.org/> works, but sometimes it not stable to get the
>> result,
>>> and at some place and some time it can not be visited.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Su Shuang (100pah)
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 19:22, SHUANG SU <sushuang0...@gmail.com <mailto:
>> sushuang0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Some of the rough test result is as follows:
>>> 
>>> GroupA: (
>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>> <
>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>>> )
>>> 
>>> <Screen Shot 2020-02-20 at 6.09.11 PM.png>
>>> ---
>>> GroupB: (
>> https://www.echartsjs.com/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>> <
>> https://www.echartsjs.com/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>>> )
>>> <Screen Shot 2020-02-20 at 6.09.42 PM.png>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Su Shuang (100pah)
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 19:20, SHUANG SU <sushuang0...@gmail.com <mailto:
>> sushuang0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi Dave,
>>> 
>>> Thanks to the CDN you provided. Since the CDN have been updated (see
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436 <
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436> ), the speed of the
>> website ( https://echarts.apache.org <https://echarts.apache.org/> )
>> improved a lot. With the help of browser cache, in my home (at Beijing), in
>> most cases the speed is not fast but acceptable, although some times it
>> occasionally slow and need retry several times or wait.
>>> 
>>> But recently I request some one others test the speed (from Shanghai,
>> Shenzhen, Beijing). Some of them fed back that the speed is good, but some
>> of them say that it take 5~6s to load or even can not load anything
>> (meanwhile https://www.echartsjs.com <https://www.echartsjs.com/> works
>> fine).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Then I tried to use some website speed testing services to compare the
>> speed.
>>> The services include:
>>>    https://www.boce.com/tool <https://www.boce.com/tool>
>>>    http://tool.chinaz.com/speedtest <http://tool.chinaz.com/speedtest>
>>>    https://www.17ce.com/ <https://www.17ce.com/>
>>>    http://www.webkaka.com/webCheck.aspx <
>> http://www.webkaka.com/webCheck.aspx>
>>> The testing URL is:
>>>    GroupA:
>>> 
>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>> <
>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg <
>> https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg>
>>>    GroupB:
>>> 
>> https://www.echartsjs.com/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>> <
>> https://www.echartsjs.com/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>>> 
>>>        https://www.echartsjs.com/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg
>> <https://www.echartsjs.com/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg>
>>> 
>>> Some of the test result are listed as follows:
>>> (Because the mail system reject the mail bigger than 1000000k, I have to
>> split the email)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Su Shuang (100pah)
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 22:56, Dave Fisher <wave4d...@comcast.net
>> <mailto:wave4d...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> I have not seen the results of using either CDN compared which is a
>> setup ASF Infra is willing to support, and the guidance ECharts has
>> received.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:25 AM, Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I heard there are domain names paid and supported by ASF. I am not
>> sure.
>>>> 
>>>> Does other mentor know about this?
>>>> 
>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com>>
>> 于2020年2月18日周二 下午4:20写道:
>>>> 
>>>>> It's currently hosted on a Baidu server maintained by Shuang Su.
>>>>> Maybe it's more proper to move it to a cloud service like Baidu Cloud
>> or
>>>>> Ali Cloud or so on, and make PPMC have the full control over that
>> account.
>>>>> As about the cloud service cost, does ASF have support for that, or
>> what
>>>>> should we do if some of our PPMC wish to pay for it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wenli
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 3:00 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Olivia
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Usually, we set the redirect rather than a mirror. Such as
>> skywalking.io <http://skywalking.io/>
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> redirected to skywalking.apache.org <http://skywalking.apache.org/>
>> only.
>>>>>> But consider your point is more about the speed of the network.
>>>>>> Could you share where is the content of this mirror hosted? And who
>> is
>>>>>> managing it? More importantly, is the ASF INFRA controlling it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com>>
>> 于2020年2月18日周二 下午2:55写道:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think it's time to make a conclusion on the ECharts Website topic.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> After some tests from varied places and time, we think the CDN is
>>>>> helping
>>>>>>> to some extent. But it still occurs that sometimes the Website is
>> not
>>>>>>> accessible somewhere inside China, or is unacceptably slow.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In the previous discussions, we talked about the possibility of
>> making
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> mirror site inside China with the domain name of echartsjs.com <
>> http://echartsjs.com/>, where
>>>>> we
>>>>>>> should clarify that this is a mirror site to echarts.apache.org <
>> http://echarts.apache.org/>.
>>>>>>> I'm sending this email to make sure that you are all OK with this
>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>> And I will work on this in a week or two if you agree.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:58 AM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi, I've opened a JIRA issue:
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436 <
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:49 AM Sheng Wu <
>> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com <mailto:wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It is good to hear that the CDN thing is making progress. :)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Apache SkyWalking
>>>>>>>>> Apache Incubator
>>>>>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere, ECharts, DolphinScheduler podlings
>>>>>>>>> Zipkin
>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SHUANG SU <sushuang0...@gmail.com <mailto:sushuang0...@gmail.com>>
>> 于2019年11月14日周四 上午4:34写道:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <http://echarts.apache.org/> <
>> http://echarts.apache.org/ <http://echarts.apache.org/>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have been testing this CDN for a while in the network of my
>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>> place
>>>>>>>>>> and home in Beijing.
>>>>>>>>>> It seams faster then the current CDN. The speed is not
>>>>> unacceptable
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> most place but
>>>>>>>>>> somewhere and sometime there are little slow cases.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Shall we change our current CDN to this new CDN above? It
>> probably
>>>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>>>>> better speed.
>>>>>>>>>> And I can also test it in different place around China via some
>>>>>>>>> services.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Su Shuang (100pah)
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 14:14, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi York,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> We are still testing the speed of the new CDN.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> In the meantime, do you have any comparing numbers about the
>>>>> speed
>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>> and after Weex using this CDN?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:05 PM YorkShen <ky...@apache.org
>> <mailto:ky...@apache.org>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just create a JIRA issue to INFRA, they will handle your
>>>>>> request.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI: After you enable experimental CDN, you will need to wait
>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>>>> hours
>>>>>>>>>>>> for China CDN cache refreshing each time you deploy the
>>>>> website.
>>>>>>>>> But if
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> visit your website through a VPN hosted in USA/India, then
>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>> takes
>>>>>>>>>>>> effect immediately. I think this is a side effect of the
>>>>>>>>> experimental
>>>>>>>>>>> CDN.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> YorkShen
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 申远
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com>>
>> 于2019年10月31日周四 下午2:33写道:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you give more information about this experimental CDN
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enable it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen <ky...@apache.org
>> <mailto:ky...@apache.org>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a
>>>>>>>>> committer
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months
>>>>> ago,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> things go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China
>>>>> [1].
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could also solve your problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406 <
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> York Shen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 申远
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different
>>>>>>>>> countries.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Open google analytics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the
>>>>>> dev
>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I will skip the screenshot. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen <
>>>>>>> shenyi....@gmail.com <mailto:shenyi....@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on
>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>> document
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking
>>>>>>> changes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I think it's important to know the website speed
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and different networks. But it seems currently our
>>>>>>> analytics
>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia <
>>>>>>>>> oviliazh...@gmail.com <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Dave.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've shared the analytics accounts in private
>>>>> maillist
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> 13th
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> June. [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should have received invitations emails from
>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only
>>>>>> gmail
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> email,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those who don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me
>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> gmail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I can invite you to our Google Analytics
>>>>> account.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you need any help to access either of them, please
>>>>>> let
>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decisions in the following emails.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
>> <
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher <
>>>>>>>>> w...@apache.org <mailto:w...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Wenli,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand that these are analytics JS and
>>>>> Graphics
>>>>>>>>>> files. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see the analytics data and how those analytics
>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The community deserves to understand how the
>>>>>> project's
>>>>>>>>>>> resources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitored.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia <
>>>>>>>>>> oviliazh...@gmail.com <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> try.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for
>>>>>> Baidu
>>>>>>>>>> Tongji,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Analytics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In previous discussions, we agreed to use both
>>>>>> Baidu
>>>>>>>>>> Tongji
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu
>>>>> Tongji
>>>>>>>>> misses
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> analytics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15% of page views outside of China, while Google
>>>>>>>>> Analytics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> misses 50%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page views from China.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu
>>>>> Tongji
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like
>>>>>>>>> analytics.js
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in
>>>>>>> China.
>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neither
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these files should block the Web page rendering.
>>>>>> So I
>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher <
>>>>>>>>>>> w...@apache.org <mailto:w...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in
>>>>>>>>> creating a
>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> hm.gif
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> Baidu.
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see a discussion about how these are used on the
>>>>>>> dev@
>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is an AzureCDN that can be tried:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or
>>>>>> equivalent)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <
>> http://echarts.apache.org/> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org <
>> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let us know if it works better. If it does then
>>>>> we
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> INFRA to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CDNs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ovilia <
>>>>>>>>>>> oviliazh...@gmail.com <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The JIRA ticket hasn't been replied by the
>>>>> infra
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> month,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it's been closed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919 <
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should I open a new one, because I cannot
>>>>> re-open
>>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:52 AM Kevin A.
>>>>> McGrail <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kmcgr...@apache.org <mailto:kmcgr...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2019 6:31 AM, Ovilia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kevin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you please copy your last email to the
>>>>>> JIRA
>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's quite inconvenient to have the
>>>>>> conversation
>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRA and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919 <
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Kevin A.
>>>>>> McGrail <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kmcgr...@apache.org <mailto:kmcgr...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Kevin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've updated this information on JIRA [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for the cost issue, we have a budget to
>>>>>>> cover
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baidu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further discussion on the details if we
>>>>>> decide
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approach.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919 <
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wenli
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the goals I see are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A) get the site up on echarts.apache.org <
>> http://echarts.apache.org/>
>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> ASF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infrastructure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is goal #1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B) see if we can make it faster with ASF
>>>>>>>>>> InfraStructure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CDN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid step C but realizing that step C is
>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C) provide a Chinese mirror of the echarts
>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more usable for people from China.  For me,
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policies and Apache Way.  I believe done
>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>> steps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is fine and within the jurisdiction of the
>>>>>>>>> project to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - a 100% mirror of the ASF site, nothing
>>>>>>>>> different,
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subdomain such as zh.echarts.apache.org <
>> http://zh.echarts.apache.org/> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> synced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the echarts.apache.org <http://echarts.apache.org/>
>> server.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - A banner or something on
>>>>>>> echarts.apache.org/zh <http://echarts.apache.org/zh>
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommends/links
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using zh.echarts.apache.org/zh <
>> http://zh.echarts.apache.org/zh> for faster
>>>>>> speed
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Release downloads still link to ASF
>>>>>>>>> Infrastructure,
>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/echarts/4.2.1/apache-echarts-4.2.1-incubating-src.zip.asc
>> <
>> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/echarts/4.2.1/apache-echarts-4.2.1-incubating-src.zip.asc
>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Question: are downloads problematically slow
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds slow and people don't complain about
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than an interactive website?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Baidu donates the hostingso there are no
>>>>>>>>> financial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impacts to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - If any recognition of the donation is
>>>>> given,
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fundraising targeted sponsorship policy (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/Targeted-Sponsorship-Policy.pdf <
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/Targeted-Sponsorship-Policy.pdf>)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which basically means it has to be approved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - And of course, the project PPMC votes to
>>>>> do
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KAM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kmcgr...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail <
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail> -
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yi Shen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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