Yi Shen <shenyi....@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道:

> Hi, Sheng
>
> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> > contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
> apache
> > release.
> >
>
> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing the local CLI
> to the web.
> In which developers can
>
> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been voted.
> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file on the browser.
> 4. Download the customized built js file.
>
> I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is all the
> processes are on the browser.
> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause potential risks in
> it.
>

>From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package is
never been voted is my concern.
I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a change or
unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one would
check.
The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that, the
source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.

Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108


>
> Regards.
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道:
> >
> > > Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > >
> > > Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > >
> > > 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I thought it
> meant
> > > if there's a
> > > "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't realize it means
> > the
> > > link is
> > > mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > > Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > >
> > >
> > Use this to check the potential issue.
> > https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> >
> >
> > > 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the community,
> something
> > > similar
> > > to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a Baidu
> server
> > > and we don't
> > > have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > How about removing the project from the navigator and list it somewhere
> > as
> > > a
> > > community resource?
> > >
> >
> > Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of community/ecosystem. And
> not
> > a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache ECharts.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the current
> > > download-theme page
> > > uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a problem?
> > > Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links to
> related
> > > GitHub projects.
> > > I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> > > download-extention page [3] that
> > > these projects are made by the community.
> > >
> >
> > I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs about links to
> 3rd
> > party extensions, or Apache release.
> > That includes, how and where to report the bug/security issue when those
> > extensions have issues.
> > Also, where should hold their discussion, such as enhancement, iteration.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a "help
> > > translate" note because
> > > we have already found the people who wish to translate and it should be
> > > done within a few
> > > weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in Chinese)" note
> > in
> > > the navigator.
> > >
> >
> > Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they could finish
> those
> > before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to ease other
> > people's concern.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least source
> > files
> > > required.
> > > I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the source
> files
> > > voted.
> > > How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source file from
> > > Apache SVN
> > > that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that seem to work
> > for
> > > you?
> > >
> >
> > The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> > contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
> apache
> > release.
> > If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you prefer the
> > custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage the source
> > code?
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > [2]
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > *Ovilia*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there was
> > > > something cobbled together.   All it is doing is testing for this
> > policy:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > >
> > > > On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > Hi, Ovilia
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the
> incubator,
> > > > does
> > > > > anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > > From I read from your website, questions
> > > > > 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
> > > > > http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > > > 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From my
> > > > reading,
> > > > > it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
> > > > > 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the differences
> > > between
> > > > > these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any official
> > > release
> > > > > process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you clarify
> what
> > > > they
> > > > > are?
> > > > > 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are configuration
> > > > > generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you have
> > open
> > > > > process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > > > 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download page,
> > how
> > > > > this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF release
> > > > process.
> > > > > Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary) is
> > > never
> > > > > being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the users to
> > > get a
> > > > > subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars make
> me
> > > > unsure
> > > > > whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors think?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Dear mentors,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and see if
> > > > there is
> > > > >> something
> > > > >> to be improved?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks
> > > > >>
> > > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <susiw...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi all:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of
> Apache,
> > > and
> > > > >> most
> > > > >>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't work
> > with
> > > > >> them,
> > > > >>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and Mr
> Dong
> > > Rui
> > > > >> had
> > > > >>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they
> haven't
> > > > >>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact that
> they
> > > > have
> > > > >>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in future
> > > would
> > > > be
> > > > >>> reasonable
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list wasn't a
> > > great
> > > > >>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal" it,
> > > > >>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of
> people
> > > know
> > > > >> how
> > > > >>> passport would be distributed.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Best regard
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Siwen Su
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Zhongxiang Wang <wan...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Hi,
> > > > >>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling website
> > and
> > > > it
> > > > >>> is
> > > > >>>> all right for me.
> > > > >>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email without
> > any
> > > > >>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t
> > encrypt
> > > > the
> > > > >>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of content
> if
> > > > it’s
> > > > >>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to enable
> > email
> > > > >>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or any
> > other
> > > > >>>> important information in the content of the email by some
> advanced
> > > > >>> patterns
> > > > >>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or
> elsewhere.
> > > > >>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always keep
> the
> > > > >>> founder
> > > > >>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project. As I
> > > know,
> > > > >>> he’s
> > > > >>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by his
> > > > >>>> professional suggestions.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > >>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>> Hi all,
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot since
> our
> > > > >>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > > >>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether we
> are
> > > > >> ready
> > > > >>>> for
> > > > >>>>> graduation and
> > > > >>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion, we
> can
> > > set
> > > > >>> the
> > > > >>>>> status to be
> > > > >>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > > >>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and
> undergoing
> > > the
> > > > >>>>> process) and 7
> > > > >>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1] and
> now
> > > > >>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different companies.
> > > > >>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
> > > > >> subscribed
> > > > >>> to
> > > > >>>>> it.
> > > > >>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release guide
> is
> > > at
> > > > >>> [4]
> > > > >>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during incubation
> [9]
> > > > >>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
> > > > >>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has been
> > > > >>> completed
> > > > >>>> [6]
> > > > >>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 1. Website
> > > > >>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so on
> > > > >> according
> > > > >>>> to
> > > > >>>>> Apache rules
> > > > >>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may help
> > check
> > > > >> the
> > > > >>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > > >>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > >>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve
> speed
> > > in
> > > > >>>> China
> > > > >>>>> and
> > > > >>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how we
> > > > >>>>> should distribute the
> > > > >>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on the
> > > private
> > > > >>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > >>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends on
> > the
> > > > >>>> password
> > > > >>>>> of the CDN
> > > > >>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > >>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that had
> no
> > > > >> clear
> > > > >>>>> contribution to
> > > > >>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each of
> them,
> > do
> > > > >> we
> > > > >>>> wish
> > > > >>>>> to make
> > > > >>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided by
> the
> > > > >>>> project,
> > > > >>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > > > >>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > > >>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > >>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > >>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > >>>>> [3]
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > >>>>> [4]
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > >>>>> <
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > >>>>> [5]
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > >>>>> [6]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > >>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > >>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > >>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the
> master
> > > > >>> branch
> > > > >>>>> and merging
> > > > >>>>> alias
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > --
> > > > Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > kmcgr...@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
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> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Yi Shen
> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>

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