I would like to ask Dave, Kevin, Sheng, and Ted if you wish to stay in the list. That would be an honor to us.
Ted said he was too busy to get involved a few weeks ago. I will check with him again to see if he is interested. Thanks *Ovilia* On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:32 PM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote: > The roaster shows 21 people: > 4 mentors; > 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list of PPMC > (15)); > 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members. > > So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers (21)" is the > sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers. > > Thanks > > *Ovilia* > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I am still not following >> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15 PPMC + 4 >> mentors >> >> Sheng Wu 吴晟 >> Twitter, wusheng1108 >> >> >> Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道： >> >> > Hi Sheng, >> > >> > Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are more >> than >> > willing >> > to include mentors here. >> > >> > After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same as >> roaster >> > committer >> > number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there is no >> > problem >> > here. >> > >> > Updated list of members: (21 people) >> > c...@apache.org Jaska >> > clemmakesa...@apache.org Clement Ho >> > d...@apache.org Houjin Huang >> > deqin...@apache.org Deqing Li >> > dexter...@apache.org Jian Cui >> > error...@apache.org Rui Dong >> > ke...@apache.org Feng Lin >> > kmcgr...@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail >> > ovi...@apache.org Wenli Zhang >> > san...@apache.org Tianjiao Han >> > she...@apache.org Yi Shen >> > sushu...@apache.org Shuang Su >> > susiw...@apache.org Siwen Su >> > ted...@apache.org Ted Liu >> > wan...@apache.org Junting Wang >> > wan...@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang >> > w...@apache.org Dave Fisher >> > wush...@apache.org Sheng Wu >> > yi...@apache.org Huang Yixiu >> > yufen...@apache.org Feng Yu >> > za...@apache.org Zak Wu >> > >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > *Ovilia* >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道： >> > > >> > > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice president >> name >> > in >> > > > the >> > > > vote email. >> > > > >> > > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we take >> all >> > > those >> > > > initial >> > > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects. >> > > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC member >> list >> > and >> > > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts. >> > > > >> > > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in alphabetical >> > > order) >> > > > c...@apache.org Jaska >> > > > clemmakesa...@apache.org Clement Ho >> > > > d...@apache.org Houjin Huang >> > > > deqin...@apache.org Deqing Li >> > > > dexter...@apache.org Jian Cui >> > > > error...@apache.org Rui Dong >> > > > ke...@apache.org Feng Lin >> > > > san...@apache.org Tianjiao Han >> > > > she...@apache.org Yi Shen >> > > > sushu...@apache.org Shuang Su >> > > > susiw...@apache.org Siwen Su >> > > > ovi...@apache.org Wenli Zhang >> > > > wan...@apache.org Junting Wang >> > > > wan...@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang >> > > > yi...@apache.org Huang Yixiu >> > > > yufen...@apache.org Feng Yu >> > > > za...@apache.org Zak Wu >> > > > >> > > >> > > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member, >> > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17 people. >> Which >> > > side is right? >> > > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in the >> PMC, >> > > default is yes. >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > More information on the vice president (chair of the project) from >> [1]: >> > > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with one >> vote >> > > on >> > > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty of a >> PMC >> > > > chair is >> > > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and >> status of >> > > > their project. >> > > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, >> and >> > be >> > > > aware of >> > > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for >> working >> > > with >> > > > the PMC >> > > > as a whole to address any board concerns. >> > > > >> > > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a volunteer. >> During >> > > > incubation, >> > > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward. >> And >> > I >> > > > have >> > > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to continue >> > > > contributing >> > > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache >> ECharts a >> > > > better >> > > > community. >> > > > >> > > >> > > +1 >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and >> you >> > are >> > > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our >> vote >> > > > soon. >> > > > >> > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal >> > > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Thanks >> > > > >> > > > *Ovilia* >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one >> > opposes. >> > > > > >> > > > > Thanks >> > > > > >> > > > > *Ovilia* >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > >> Hi, >> > > > >> >> > > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated >> > tools. >> > > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a further >> > > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in >> > dev@echarts >> > > > >> mailing list soon. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> [1] >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Thanks >> > > > >> >> > > > >> *Ovilia* >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > > >> >> > > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with >> > graduation. >> > > We >> > > > >>> really appreciate it. >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2]. >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a >> > vote. >> > > So >> > > > >>> please >> > > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed. >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> [1] >> > > > >>> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts >> > > > >>> [2] >> > > > >>> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> Thanks >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> *Ovilia* >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin < >> m...@preset.io> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to >> > > > >>>> introduce >> > > > >>>> myself and offer some help. >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow >> (top >> > > > >>>> level) >> > > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community >> is >> > > > >>>> currently >> > > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal >> for >> > > > using >> > > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library >> > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>, >> > > looking >> > > > >>>> forward to collaborate! >> > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts' >> graduation >> > > > >>>> process as >> > > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a >> checklist >> > > and >> > > > >>>> items >> > > > >>>> you're looking for help/support? >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> Thanks, >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> Max >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <quillq...@gmail.com >> > >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official >> and >> > > > >>>> > community, including: >> > > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external >> > > content >> > > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like >> > > “this >> > > > >>>> is not >> > > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting >> > > > >>>> announcement on >> > > > >>>> > websites. >> > > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service >> but >> > > also >> > > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official version >> > and >> > > it >> > > > >>>> is not >> > > > >>>> > for re-distributing. >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> > Quill >> > > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my >> > > > nickname) >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> 写道： >> > > > >>>> > > >> > > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <shenyi....@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道： >> > > > >>>> > > >> > > > >>>> > >>> >> > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download >> > source >> > > > >>>> package >> > > > >>>> > is >> > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern. >> > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether >> there >> > > is >> > > > a >> > > > >>>> > change >> > > > >>>> > >> or >> > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. >> And >> > no >> > > > one >> > > > >>>> would >> > > > >>>> > >>> check. >> > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation >> > about >> > > > >>>> that, the >> > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements. >> > > > >>>> > >>> >> > > > >>>> > >> >> > > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build >> > > script >> > > > >>>> used >> > > > >>>> > on >> > > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted. >> > > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about >> 1.5k >> > > > >>>> developers >> > > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday. >> > > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to >> > build >> > > > from >> > > > >>>> > source >> > > > >>>> > >> in local. >> > > > >>>> > >> >> > > > >>>> > > >> > > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the >> gerneral@incubator >> > , >> > > > to >> > > > >>>> check >> > > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than >> removing >> > > it. >> > > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal >> simulation on >> > > > that >> > > > >>>> page, >> > > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least. >> > > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary >> env, >> > > then >> > > > >>>> you >> > > > >>>> > just >> > > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the >> > pre-requirement >> > > > >>>> env have >> > > > >>>> > > been installed correctly. >> > > > >>>> > > >> > > > >>>> > > >> > > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 >> > > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108 >> > > > >>>> > > >> > > > >>>> > > >> > > > >>>> > >> >> > > > >>>> > >> Thanks >> > > > >>>> > >> >> > > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu < >> > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> >> > > > >>>> > wrote: >> > > > >>>> > >>> >> > > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <shenyi....@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道： >> > > > >>>> > >>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which >> > > includes >> > > > >>>> all >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that >> is an >> > > > >>>> official >> > > > >>>> > >>>> apache >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> release. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is >> > bringing >> > > > the >> > > > >>>> local >> > > > >>>> > >>> CLI >> > > > >>>> > >>>> to the web. >> > > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have >> > been >> > > > >>>> voted. >> > > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser. >> > > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js >> file >> > > on >> > > > >>>> the >> > > > >>>> > >>> browser. >> > > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file. >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local >> CLI >> > is >> > > > >>>> all the >> > > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser. >> > > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause >> > > potential >> > > > >>>> risks >> > > > >>>> > >> in >> > > > >>>> > >>>> it. >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>> >> > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download >> > source >> > > > >>>> package >> > > > >>>> > is >> > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern. >> > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether >> there >> > > is >> > > > a >> > > > >>>> > change >> > > > >>>> > >> or >> > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. >> And >> > no >> > > > one >> > > > >>>> would >> > > > >>>> > >>> check. >> > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation >> > about >> > > > >>>> that, the >> > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements. >> > > > >>>> > >>> >> > > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 >> > > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108 >> > > > >>>> > >>> >> > > > >>>> > >>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>> Regards. >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu < >> > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> >> > > > >>>> > >>> wrote: >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道： >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues: >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the >> navigator. I >> > > > >>>> thought it >> > > > >>>> > >>>> meant >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't >> > > > realize >> > > > >>>> it >> > > > >>>> > >>> means >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> the >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added: >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the >> > > > community, >> > > > >>>> > >>>> something >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted >> > on a >> > > > >>>> Baidu >> > > > >>>> > >>>> server >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and >> > list >> > > it >> > > > >>>> > >>> somewhere >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> as >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> a >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource? >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of >> > > > >>>> community/ecosystem. >> > > > >>>> > >> And >> > > > >>>> > >>>> not >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the >> > Apache >> > > > >>>> ECharts. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] >> and >> > > the >> > > > >>>> > >> current >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is >> > this >> > > a >> > > > >>>> > >> problem? >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they >> are >> > > links >> > > > >>>> to >> > > > >>>> > >>>> related >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs >> > > about >> > > > >>>> links >> > > > >>>> > >> to >> > > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security >> > > issue >> > > > >>>> when >> > > > >>>> > >>> those >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as >> > > enhancement, >> > > > >>>> > >>> iteration. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We >> didn't >> > > put a >> > > > >>>> "help >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate >> > and >> > > it >> > > > >>>> > >> should >> > > > >>>> > >>> be >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a >> "(in >> > > > >>>> Chinese)" >> > > > >>>> > >>> note >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> in >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they >> > > could >> > > > >>>> finish >> > > > >>>> > >>>> those >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I >> hope >> > to >> > > > >>>> ease >> > > > >>>> > >> other >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with >> the >> > > least >> > > > >>>> > >> source >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> files >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> required. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not >> using >> > > the >> > > > >>>> source >> > > > >>>> > >>>> files >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the >> > > source >> > > > >>>> file >> > > > >>>> > >>> from >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does >> > that >> > > > >>>> seem to >> > > > >>>> > >>> work >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> for >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> you? >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which >> > > includes >> > > > >>>> all >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that >> is an >> > > > >>>> official >> > > > >>>> > >>>> apache >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> release. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if >> > you >> > > > >>>> prefer >> > > > >>>> > >> the >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to >> > repackage >> > > > the >> > > > >>>> > >> source >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> code? >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1] >> > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2] >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/ >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3] >> > https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia* >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail < >> > > > >>>> > >>> kmcgr...@apache.org> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote: >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do >> remember >> > > > there >> > > > >>>> was >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is >> testing >> > > for >> > > > >>>> this >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> policy: >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> >> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote: >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check >> in >> > > the >> > > > >>>> > >>>> incubator, >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this? >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare >> it >> > > with >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is >> > that? >> > > > >>>> From >> > > > >>>> > >> my >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading, >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) >> > this >> > > > >>>> repo? >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the >> > > > >>>> > >> differences >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> between >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is >> > any >> > > > >>>> > >> official >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> release >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could >> > you >> > > > >>>> > >> clarify >> > > > >>>> > >>>> what >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are? >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they >> are >> > > > >>>> > >>> configuration >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, >> and >> > do >> > > > you >> > > > >>>> > >>> have >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> open >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools? >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website >> > > > download >> > > > >>>> > >>> page, >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> how >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks >> the >> > ASF >> > > > >>>> > >> release >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not >> source, no >> > > > >>>> binary) >> > > > >>>> > >>> is >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> never >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you >> provide >> > > the >> > > > >>>> > >> users >> > > > >>>> > >>> to >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted >> source >> > > > tars >> > > > >>>> > >> make >> > > > >>>> > >>>> me >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other >> > mentors >> > > > >>>> > >> think? >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 >> 上午10:25写道： >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors, >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related >> > documents >> > > > and >> > > > >>>> > >> see >> > > > >>>> > >>> if >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved? >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia* >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su < >> > > > >>>> susiw...@gmail.com> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote: >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all: >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all >> > rules >> > > > of >> > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache, >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since >> I >> > > > haven't >> > > > >>>> > >>> work >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> with >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them, >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin >> > Zhifeng >> > > > and >> > > > >>>> > >> Mr >> > > > >>>> > >>>> Dong >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even >> > thought >> > > > they >> > > > >>>> > >>>> haven't >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change >> the >> > > fact >> > > > >>>> > >> that >> > > > >>>> > >>>> they >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as >> > PMC >> > > in >> > > > >>>> > >>> future >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> would >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private >> mail >> > > list >> > > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> great >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else >> would >> > > > >>>> "steal" >> > > > >>>> > >>> it, >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list >> which >> > > lots >> > > > of >> > > > >>>> > >>>> people >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wan...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 >> > > > >>>> 下午12:57写道： >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of >> > > podling >> > > > >>>> > >>> website >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> and >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password >> on >> > > email >> > > > >>>> > >>> without >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> any >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email >> > clients >> > > > >>>> don’t >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a >> leak >> > > of >> > > > >>>> > >>> content >> > > > >>>> > >>>> if >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s >> better >> > to >> > > > >>>> > >> enable >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> email >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw >> > > password >> > > > or >> > > > >>>> > >> any >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> other >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the >> email by >> > > > some >> > > > >>>> > >>>> advanced >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing >> list >> > or >> > > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we >> should >> > > > always >> > > > >>>> > >> keep >> > > > >>>> > >>>> the >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to >> ECharts >> > > > >>>> project. >> > > > >>>> > >>> As I >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know, >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and >> > > > develop >> > > > >>>> by >> > > > >>>> > >>> his >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia < >> > oviliazh...@gmail.com >> > > > >> > > > >>>> > >> wrote: >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and >> grown a >> > > lot >> > > > >>>> > >> since >> > > > >>>> > >>>> our >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion >> about >> > > > whether >> > > > >>>> > >> we >> > > > >>>> > >>>> are >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this >> > > > >>>> discussion, >> > > > >>>> > >> we >> > > > >>>> > >>>> can >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> set >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation: >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the >> vote >> > and >> > > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7 >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the >> > community >> > > > [1] >> > > > >>>> > >> and >> > > > >>>> > >>>> now >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 >> > different >> > > > >>>> > >>> companies. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we >> have >> > 79 >> > > > >>>> people >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; >> > > > release >> > > > >>>> > >>> guide >> > > > >>>> > >>>> is >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> at >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4] >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project >> during >> > > > >>>> > >> incubation >> > > > >>>> > >>>> [9] >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available >> at >> > > [5] >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name >> > searching >> > > > has >> > > > >>>> > >>> been >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6] >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss: >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, >> document, >> > > and >> > > > >>>> so >> > > > >>>> > >> on >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. >> You >> > > may >> > > > >>>> > >> help >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> check >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored >> CDN to >> > > > >>>> improve >> > > > >>>> > >>>> speed >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> in >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not >> > sure >> > > > how >> > > > >>>> > >> we >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the >> > password >> > > > on >> > > > >>>> > >> the >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> private >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough? >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide >> [4] >> > > > >>>> depends >> > > > >>>> > >>> on >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> the >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it? >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial >> > PPMCs >> > > > that >> > > > >>>> > >> had >> > > > >>>> > >>>> no >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide >> on >> > > each >> > > > >>>> of >> > > > >>>> > >>>> them, >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> do >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, >> it's >> > > > >>>> decided >> > > > >>>> > >> by >> > > > >>>> > >>>> the >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project, >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this. >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168 >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >> https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2] >> > > > >>>> > >>> >> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3] >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/ >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4] >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>> >> > > > >>>> > >> >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> < >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>> >> > > > >>>> > >> >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5] >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>> >> > > > >>>> > >> >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6] >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153 >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/ >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8] >> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, >> 2018"` >> > > on >> > > > >>>> the >> > > > >>>> > >>>> master >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia* >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >> >> > > > >>>> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> > > > >>>> dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> > > > >>>> > >> dev-h...@echarts.apache.org >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> -- >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> kmcgr...@apache.org >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> > > dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> > > > dev-h...@echarts.apache.org >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>>> -- >> > > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen >> > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC >> > > > >>>> > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > >>> >> > > > >>>> > >> >> > > > >>>> > >> >> > > > >>>> > >> -- >> > > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen >> > > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC >> > > > >>>> > >> >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org >> > > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >
