Leo Simons wrote:

I think a big *thank you* to Aaron and especially to Jorg (first-time release manager I believe!) is in order. So: thank you!

yeah that was my first release, and what an experience it was ;) I hope the next one(s) will roll much smoother ...

Doing release management for a project like ours is not exactly trivial, and given how old, erm, stable this stuff is and how much "exciting" stuff happens around here, it might not be too glamorous either. I think the fact that we (finally!) were able to get this stuff out properly is worth a lot; for me it is part of showing that apache can make good on its stability and long-term availability reputation. In a java landscape full of backwards-incompatible releases, loads of java-5-only open source projects (when 90% of the industry runs 1.4.x), continuous refactoring, and classloader architectures that *still* mostly suck everywhere, excalibur remains a dependable bastion of stability.

Nice words.

Still, in the days of web2.0 people look funnily at bastions of stability. You get questions like "Anything invented that long is surely outdated and buggy?", "Can it do Ajax?" etc etc ... Unless you're using a patched version of dojo trunk in production you're not part of the 2.0 crowd.

I'm happy to have been able to contribute something to the not-so-glamorous-Avalon project, and will step up again should the need ever arise.

I don't know if you'll make it to ApacheCon Europe (though I'll be really surprised if I see Aaron around here :-)), but I'll be sure to buy you a beer or other beverage if you do!

Won't be at apachecon, but i hear the Apache beer vouchers don't expire easily ;-)


Cheers,
Jorg


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