Sorry, I think I misread your proposition. I thought it was referring to the "distribution" for an OSGi framework (such as ServiceMix Kernel). Given the size of the donation, the incubator could be a good target.
2009/3/29 Marcel Offermans <marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl>: > On Mar 29, 2009, at 23:09 , Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Marcel Offermans >> <marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl> wrote: >>> >>> On Mar 29, 2009, at 20:59 , Guillaume Nodet wrote: >>> >>>> This project could also start as a subproject of felix and if there is >>>> sufficient momentum around it, become a TLP later. I think it is an >>>> easier process ... >> >> +1 >> >> there's a lot of momentum and interest ATM so let's not waste it by delay > > Not trying to loose any momentum at all. In fact I had already prepared a > proposal before ApacheCon and was just looking to add some users and initial > committers to the list so we could start out with a real community (at least > initially). > >>> My main motivation for trying to become a TLP is that this project is not >>> specific to Felix, plus other projects that just "use OSGi" are separate >>> projects too. Even though the provisioning server is built on OSGi, it can >>> provision more than just OSGi. Is it really that much easier for a proposal >>> to get accepted if it's a subproject, given that we seem to have many >>> different people interested in joining already? >> >> a brand new TLP would require incubation and would take several weeks >> to get going. i suspect that the scope of the incubation would be >> difficult to get right. it might take quite a while before a suitable >> proposal could be agreed. > > To be honest, there is a big, currently proprietary codebase that needs to be > donated. That might take some time regardless of which way we go. However, > I'm not sure if that would be such a good fit to do all of that within Felix. > It's definitely more than "just a few components": we're talking about around > 100 components here. > >> provided that the components are in scope with >> >> <blockquote >> cite='http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2007/board_minutes_2007_03_28.txt'> >> A. Establish the Apache Felix Project >> >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >> open-source software implementing the OSGi Service Platform >> and other software that is associated with or related to >> the OSGi Service Platform for distribution at no charge to >> the public. >> </blockquote> >> >> then the Felix PMC can add new products with low initial overhead so >> long as it feels it can offer the required oversight. i would suggest >> that the PMC approaches the board for guidance if the commons looks >> like it's going to be popular. > > That's another issue, the provisioning server does NOT try to limit itself to > just OSGi, even though the OSGi framework because of its dynamic nature is > very well suited as a target to deploy to. > > To sum it up: > a) I don't mind doing the work now to go into incubation with the goal of > becoming a TLP > b) even though I have way less knowledge about Apache than some people here, > I have the feeling that eventually this project will not have the same scope > as the Felix project, so why not target a TLP directly > c) probably the most significant aspect of the "startup process" is the > actual donation of the current codebase, and adapting it, so even if we go as > a subproject of Felix, it will take some time to get that going > > Greetings, Marcel > > -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet ------------------------ Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ ------------------------ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com
