On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 16:44, Richard S. Hall <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 10/8/10 10:37, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>
>> I was planning to start a discussion around that, so let's do that now.
>>
>> I'm not convinced we should remove this hack when classpath scanning is
>> implemented, mostly because even if then ultimately try to solve the same
>> problem, they will certainly do it in a different way.  What I mean is
>> that
>> AFAIK, the classpath scanning stuff will result in a new api on the bundle
>> or bundleContext to iterate through resources, which means that in order
>> to
>> support existing libraries, you kinda have to rewrite the whole thing in
>> order to accomodate those apis (especially if they are written so that
>> they
>> work outside of osgi).
>> I think the hack i've written allows a smoother integration of those
>> libraries, with the drawback that you know it can break in certain
>> conditions.
>>
>> Also, your comment says "Do not make containerisms public."
>> In that case, it's not really public because the public face of the Felix
>> Framework is the OSGi api.
>> I guess the question comes down to wether we want Felix to remain pure
>> (without containerisms) or make it easier for people to use it (by bending
>> the edges when it makes sense to allow people to deploy their existing
>> libraries without rewriting the whole thing).
>> Imho, Felix is not a research prototype, nor supposed to be the cleaneest
>> reference implementation of OSGi, so adapting to the users makes sense
>> imho,
>> provided that it's done conciensouly by the user by activating a flag or
>> accessing a non public api (we fall in that case here imho).
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>
> I disagree almost completely.
>
> Any move toward containerisms just creates bundles that do not run on all
> OSGi frameworks -- they are no longer bundles, but something that is like a
> bundle.
>

That's plain wrong.  It only means one particular thing is tied to Felix.
 The library i'm working on has two different paths wether it's deployed in
Felix or Equinox for example.  I agree it's not the best thing to do, but
the other way is simply to drop Felix because it can not be bend enough.
In that case, the problem is tied to the spring framework which is heavily
used, and i just can't rewrite the whole thing ;-)


>
> If the official OSGi API is not sufficient, then it should be pushed into a
> direction that makes it sufficient. We shouldn't go about making our own
> framework API, then people will really have to worry about whether Felix
> bundles are tied to the Felix framework, which is something that is hard
> enough to educate people about in the first place.
>

When you write a bundle, you can easily test it under the environment it
supposed to work.  I can't imagine someone using such a hack not being aware
it's tied to Felix ....   .  So he knows what platforms are supported.
It's the same as specifiying JDK 1.5 or JDK 1.6 when you write some java
code: you just specifiy the environment where it has been tested and it
works.  In my case, I plan to test it under Equinox and Felix and try to
ensure it works under both platforms, even if i need an if block to make
that work.  And if I want to write a bundle that only works with Felix, it's
my decision to take, not yours I think.

Purety is nice, and that's what the OSGi API is for.  Now if we want Felix
and OSGi to be as widely used as possible, we need to make things to work.
Rejecting containerisms on the principle that they are not pure will not
really help doing that I think.



> -> richard
>
>
>  On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 16:22,<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>
>>  Author: rickhall
>>> Date: Fri Oct  8 14:22:39 2010
>>> New Revision: 1005843
>>>
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1005843&view=rev
>>> Log:
>>> Do not make containerisms public. (FELIX-2645)
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/ExtensionManager.java
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/ModuleImpl.java
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/URLHandlersBundleURLConnection.java
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/cache/ContentDirectoryContent.java
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/cache/DirectoryContent.java
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/cache/JarContent.java
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/resolver/Content.java
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/resolver/Module.java
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/ExtensionManager.java
>>> URL:
>>>
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/ExtensionManager.java?rev=1005843&r1=1005842&r2=1005843&view=diff
>>>
>>>
>>> ==============================================================================
>>> ---
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/ExtensionManager.java
>>> (original)
>>> +++
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/ExtensionManager.java
>>> Fri Oct  8 14:22:39 2010
>>> @@ -610,6 +610,7 @@ class ExtensionManager extends URLStream
>>>         return null;
>>>     }
>>>
>>> +    // TODO: REMOVE - Remove when class path scanning is implemented.
>>>     public URL getEntryAsURL(String name)
>>>     {
>>>         return null;
>>> @@ -763,6 +764,7 @@ class ExtensionManager extends URLStream
>>>             return
>>> getClass().getClassLoader().getResourceAsStream(urlPath);
>>>         }
>>>
>>> +        // TODO: REMOVE - Remove when class path scanning is
>>> implemented.
>>>         public URL getLocalURL(int index, String urlPath)
>>>         {
>>>             return getClass().getClassLoader().getResource(urlPath);
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/ModuleImpl.java
>>> URL:
>>>
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/ModuleImpl.java?rev=1005843&r1=1005842&r2=1005843&view=diff
>>>
>>>
>>> ==============================================================================
>>> ---
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/ModuleImpl.java
>>> (original)
>>> +++
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/ModuleImpl.java
>>> Fri Oct  8 14:22:39 2010
>>> @@ -1091,6 +1091,7 @@ public class ModuleImpl implements Modul
>>>         return getContentPath()[index - 1].getEntryAsStream(urlPath);
>>>     }
>>>
>>> +    // TODO: REMOVE - Remove when class path scanning is implemented.
>>>     public URL getLocalURL(int index, String urlPath)
>>>     {
>>>         if (urlPath.startsWith("/"))
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/URLHandlersBundleURLConnection.java
>>> URL:
>>>
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/URLHandlersBundleURLConnection.java?rev=1005843&r1=1005842&r2=1005843&view=diff
>>>
>>>
>>> ==============================================================================
>>> ---
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/URLHandlersBundleURLConnection.java
>>> (original)
>>> +++
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/URLHandlersBundleURLConnection.java
>>> Fri Oct  8 14:22:39 2010
>>> @@ -28,7 +28,7 @@ import org.apache.felix.framework.resolv
>>>
>>>  import org.apache.felix.framework.util.Util;
>>>
>>> -public class URLHandlersBundleURLConnection extends URLConnection
>>> +class URLHandlersBundleURLConnection extends URLConnection
>>>  {
>>>     private Felix m_framework;
>>>     private Module m_targetModule;
>>> @@ -201,7 +201,8 @@ public class URLHandlersBundleURLConnect
>>>      *
>>>      * @return the local URL
>>>      */
>>> -    public URL getLocalURL()
>>> +    // TODO: REMOVE - Remove when class path scanning is implemented.
>>> +    URL getLocalURL()
>>>     {
>>>         if ((m_targetModule == null) || (m_classPathIdx<  0))
>>>         {
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/cache/ContentDirectoryContent.java
>>> URL:
>>>
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/cache/ContentDirectoryContent.java?rev=1005843&r1=1005842&r2=1005843&view=diff
>>>
>>>
>>> ==============================================================================
>>> ---
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/cache/ContentDirectoryContent.java
>>> (original)
>>> +++
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/cache/ContentDirectoryContent.java
>>> Fri Oct  8 14:22:39 2010
>>> @@ -82,6 +82,7 @@ public class ContentDirectoryContent imp
>>>         return m_content.getEntryAsStream(m_rootPath + name);
>>>     }
>>>
>>> +    // TODO: REMOVE - Remove when class path scanning is implemented.
>>>     public URL getEntryAsURL(String name)
>>>     {
>>>         return m_content.getEntryAsURL(m_rootPath + name);
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/cache/DirectoryContent.java
>>> URL:
>>>
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/cache/DirectoryContent.java?rev=1005843&r1=1005842&r2=1005843&view=diff
>>>
>>>
>>> ==============================================================================
>>> ---
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/cache/DirectoryContent.java
>>> (original)
>>> +++
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/cache/DirectoryContent.java
>>> Fri Oct  8 14:22:39 2010
>>> @@ -133,6 +133,7 @@ public class DirectoryContent implements
>>>         return new FileInputStream(new File(m_dir, name));
>>>     }
>>>
>>> +    // TODO: REMOVE - Remove when class path scanning is implemented.
>>>     public URL getEntryAsURL(String name)
>>>     {
>>>         if ((name.length()>  0)&&  (name.charAt(0) == '/'))
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/cache/JarContent.java
>>> URL:
>>>
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/cache/JarContent.java?rev=1005843&r1=1005842&r2=1005843&view=diff
>>>
>>>
>>> ==============================================================================
>>> ---
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/cache/JarContent.java
>>> (original)
>>> +++
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/cache/JarContent.java
>>> Fri Oct  8 14:22:39 2010
>>> @@ -192,6 +192,7 @@ public class JarContent implements Conte
>>>         return is;
>>>     }
>>>
>>> +    // TODO: REMOVE - Remove when class path scanning is implemented.
>>>     public URL getEntryAsURL(String name)
>>>     {
>>>         try
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/resolver/Content.java
>>> URL:
>>>
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/resolver/Content.java?rev=1005843&r1=1005842&r2=1005843&view=diff
>>>
>>>
>>> ==============================================================================
>>> ---
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/resolver/Content.java
>>> (original)
>>> +++
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/resolver/Content.java
>>> Fri Oct  8 14:22:39 2010
>>> @@ -120,5 +120,6 @@ public interface Content
>>>      * @return A URL using a standard protocol such as file, jar
>>>      *           or null if not possible.
>>>      */
>>> +    // TODO: REMOVE - Remove when class path scanning is implemented.
>>>     URL getEntryAsURL(String name);
>>>  }
>>> \ No newline at end of file
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/resolver/Module.java
>>> URL:
>>>
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/resolver/Module.java?rev=1005843&r1=1005842&r2=1005843&view=diff
>>>
>>>
>>> ==============================================================================
>>> ---
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/resolver/Module.java
>>> (original)
>>> +++
>>>
>>> felix/trunk/framework/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/framework/resolver/Module.java
>>> Fri Oct  8 14:22:39 2010
>>> @@ -72,5 +72,6 @@ public interface Module
>>>         throws IOException;
>>>     InputStream getInputStream(int index, String urlPath)
>>>         throws IOException;
>>> +    // TODO: REMOVE - Remove when class path scanning is implemented.
>>>     URL getLocalURL(int index, String urlPath);
>>>  }
>>> \ No newline at end of file
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>


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