On 16 November 2010 12:49, Felix Meschberger <fmesc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Having defaults is good, but ...
>
> * AFAICT we already have defaults for Export-Package and
> Private-Package, at least in the maven bundle plugin
>
> * Export package versioning seems to be controversial where the current
> default (none unless it can be derived from configuration or package
> version files or @Export annotation) seems to be a minimal consensus.
> Changing this to default to the bundle version instead is nothing I
> could agree with (and I learned this the hard way over the course of the
> last two years ;-) ).
>
> * Importing one's own exports is AFAICT OSGi good practice and IMHO
> should be kept as the default
>
> * Having different behaviour for Import-Package version range generation
> depending on how a bundle is built (multi- vs. single-module) sounds
> like not so good an idea (I hate non-deterministic builds and the
> consequences thereof)
>
> Nevertheless: having properties to simplify some configuration (like the
> proposed {local-packages} to easily set export version) or a switch to
> disable importing one's own exports (doesn't this exist already?) sounds
> reasonable.
>
> Maybe the {local-packages} can even be extended to:
>
>  {local-packages} -- all packages in the project
>  {local-default-export-packages} -- all packages in the project
>        exported by default (that would be all packages not having
>        internal or impl in the name)
>  {local-default-private-packages} -- all packages in the project
>        not exported by default (that would be all packages having
>        internal or impl in the name)
>

imho keep it simple and start with {local-packages} as the list of all local
packages,
you could always use bnd macros/patterns to filter internal/impl packages in
or out


> I understand, that it would be nice to have some default setup for
> wrapping existing libraries (which is what you want to do for the Axis
> libraries, IIUIC). But this should be configured in a special
> configuration (e.g. the Axis parent POM in your case) and not in the
> Maven Bundle Plugin.
>
> For the Bundle Plugin defaults we should IMHO adhere to OSGi good
> practice.
>
> Regards
> Felix
>
> Am Dienstag, den 16.11.2010, 10:07 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Nodet:
> > I'd like to improve the maven bundle plugin to make it very easy to
> > actually create good bundles for people that have had limited exposure
> > to OSGi.
> > I think in such cases, we should have something like the following:
> >    * export all the packages from the src/main/java (this is done by
> > default by the plugin if nothing is specified, but there's no way to
> > add things without having to list all the packages again)
> >    * use the pom version for the version of the exported packages
> >    * do not import exported packages by default (most of the projects
> > i've worked with do not use api + impl in the same bundle)
> >    * use default version ranges for third party libraries
> >    * use a stricter version range for packages imported from the same
> > build (i.e. if you have two bundles build in the same build, they will
> > import packages using a stricter version range)
> >
> > Before you try to shoot me down, I do understand this is not the best
> > way to create bundles, and ideally, the version of the packages would
> > be different than the overall version of the system, but I think a lot
> > of projects aren't prepared to have OSGi have such a big impact on
> > their code (as OSGi is for them a side thing).   So for those, I'd
> > still like to have a set of defaults that works better than the
> > current default (which has no version on the packages, does not use
> > version ranges, etc...).
> >
> > I'm not sure how to do that yet, maybe having a simple option that
> > activate different profiles if people think this should not be the
> > overall defaults.  I haven't given much thoughts about the technical
> > aspect yet, but I do think we should make it easier to package OSGi
> > bundles.
> >
> > Also maybe a different profile to package an existing jar into a
> > bundle more easily would be good too.
> >
> > THoughts ?
> >
>

-- 
Cheers, Stuart

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