A lot of our confusion thinking about how to fix this is caused by the 2-step 
state changes in felix ds, such as the "activating" state.  It seems like there 
are states and state transitions both represented as states.  I reread the SCR 
spec and don't see any mention of states like this.  Are these states entirely 
a felix invention so we could theoretically change the set of states?

Also I'm not sure we're registering the service before activating it.... 112.2.2

If an immediate component configuration is satisfied and specifies a service, 
SCR must regis- ter the component configuration as a service in the service 
registry and then activate the component configuration.


thanks
david jencks

On Apr 19, 2012, at 3:19 PM, David Jencks wrote:

> We've run into one definite concurrency problem in SCR and I've been 
> discussing offline with a colleague how to fix it and wanted to get the 
> discussion out in the open.
> 
> The original symptom was when 2 mandatory service refs were satisfied on 
> different threads at once: the 2nd wasn't recognized so the component never 
> got activated.
> 
> This is easily solved by synchronizing but this introduces risk of deadlocks 
> (my first attempt, 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12522537/FELIX-3456-1.diff)
> 
> We tried some partly asynchronous approaches such as 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12523313/FELIX-3456-4.diff.  
> Unless there's a timeout (presumably due to deadlock) this gets all service 
> events processed before the thread exits from its first call into SCR.  
> However this can result in service events getting processed later than one 
> expects possibly on a different thread.  On further thought we concluded that 
> a service event must be processed fully before the service registration call 
> returns.  We therefore don't think any kind of asynchronous approach will 
> work.
> 
> We've discovered the anti-circular-dependency clause in the spec (112.3.5) 
> but it appears to be overly biased towards SCR-only graphs of services.  We 
> are leaning towards thinking that SCR also needs to consider:
> 
> - an activate method registers a service that satisfies an optional 
> dependency of a component being activated by scr on the same thread.
> - the same, except the activate method starts a new thread to register the 
> service and waits for it to complete.
> 
> Another scenario to consider is
> 
> components C1 and C2 registering as services, each with an optional dynamic 
> dependency on the other.  If one starts, and then the other, there is no 
> problem, they both get references to the other.  If they both start at the 
> same time in separate threads (either because they are in different bundles 
> or because they get activated due to mandatory references being satisfied) 
> and register the services while the other is in the Activating state, a 
> simple lock over the service event processing will result in deadlock.  
> Furthermore, to get the correct result, at least one of the services has to 
> be bound while the component to which is is binding is in the Activating 
> state.
> 
> It looks like the situation can be simplified a bit by considering, for 
> service events, whether the dependency will result in a state change: if it's 
> optional or mandatory but not the only satisfying service, it won't, but if 
> it's mandatory and the first satisfying service, it will.  We can calculate 
> this before calling any bind methods or activate methods.  After determining 
> this, we know the final state of the component.
> 
> We're considering whether some kind of 2-stage lock would work:
> 
> one level can change the state and blocks all other threads
> the other level can't change the state and lets stuff like service events for 
> non-state-changing service references be processed according to the final 
> state of the component. (e.g. activating will let bind methods be called on 
> the under-configuration object).
> 
> This does not yet consider bundle event driven state changes or deactivation 
> or delayed component creation or service factories.
> 
> Comments and more scenarios to consider are more than welcome.
> 
> thanks
> david jencks
> 
> 
> 

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