2017-01-18 11:59 GMT+01:00 David Bosschaert <david.bosscha...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Guillaume, > > First of all, the OSGi Alliance is a very open standards development > organization. Any organisation can join. RFPs and RFCs are developed in the > open, specs are available for free and are free to be implemented by > anyone. > > There is also an open feedback channel available where everyone can post > feedback, described at https://github.com/osgi/design > > OSGi works very hard in defining specs that are portable and can be > implemented without the need to pay for any licenses or anything of that > sort. > > History has shown that spec implementations are really quite portable. > Implementation bundles can be mixed from different sources and everything > just works as long as you use the specced APIs. > > Every new spec that is being worked on in OSGi needs, besides the RFP/RFC > and spec chapter, a Reference Implementation and a Conformance Testsuite. > Over the past 10 years or so, Reference Implementations have primarily been > implemented in open source. This has the benefit that everyone can see what > the implementation is going to be and also it allows everyone to provide > feedback and participate in the implementation. That's very fine. Fwiw, I really don't think this is advertised anywhere. I mean, I'm quite sure there's no way you can know where the RI is being developed by looking at the public documents from the OSGi Alliance. So while the goal is interesting, I doubt a lot of non members know where the RI is being developed. > Apache committers have free > access to the relevant CTs as well. > > I think this is all goodness. Or would you rather see that Reference > Implementations are implemented in private? > Definitely not. Though, for myself, if the RI is LGPL, I won't use it, so it does not matter to me. However, a ASL2 / BSD licensed RI is very interesting for users. But that has nothing to do with *where* this RI is developed. You can perfectly develop an ASL2 RI at github. If you want to do it at Apache, you need to follow its rules. > > Best regards, > > David > > > On 18 January 2017 at 10:41, Guillaume Nodet <gno...@apache.org> wrote: > > > I'm a bit concerned by some subprojects in our communities. > > > > The ASF is supposed to be "community over code", so the very basic thing > > for a project is that people can get involved. > > > > However, I see more and more code developped as a reference > implementation > > of a spec which is not publicly available, because it's still being > > developed at the OSGi Alliance. I find that very disturbing because > > there's no way the community can get involved unless they are OSGi > Alliance > > members, and that's clearly not acceptable imho. > > > > Thoughts ? > > Guillaume Nodet > > > -- ------------------------ Guillaume Nodet ------------------------ Red Hat, Open Source Integration Email: gno...@redhat.com Web: http://fusesource.com Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
