Hey Victor,

That's very exciting.  I'm very interested in helping you on that.
But because of preparations for ApacheCon, I don't have time for this
right at this moment.  I will come back to you in October...

Best Regards,
Myrle
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:44 AM Victor Manuel Romero Rodriguez
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Myrle,
>
>
> I have taken this thread because now we are working in a Crowdfunding
> project and we are in our PoC the Stellar platform.
>
> We are working with the Smart Contracts for the PoC, because is part of
> the requirement to reduce the risk, lock the assets and also to have
> multi signature and unlock the money as per a timeline of deliverables.
>
> In Mexico we are looking for the best integration with the official
> currency and the players of payments gateways that we have in this
> country (MXN <--> XLM), because is a challenge to find the best
> cost-benefits to allow the micropayments and the MFI to succeed.
>
>
> We would like to contribute with the code that we have done for 2
> players of the mexican market payment gateway and also to contribute on
> the Stellar bridge.
>
> Regards
>
> Victor
>
> El 24/07/18 a las 03:28, Myrle Krantz escribió:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I hadn't been tracking Sanyam's efforts closely enough, but now I've
> > had a quick flyby of it, there are some important problems with me
> > integrating with it:
> >
> > * It's not part of Fineract. It's being creating at the Mifos Initiative.
> > * It hasn't been released yet.  It's very early stage.
> >
> > If I were to make my code dependent on it, and the development were to
> > take an unexpected direction, I wouldn't be able to protect any
> > Fineract users from that, and I'd be making Fineract users dependent
> > on the Mifos Initiative.  I think highly of the Mifos Initiative, and
> > it *is* a non-profit, but there are still risks there.  For example,
> > the Mifos Initiative doesn't have a vetting process which prevents
> > Cat-X dependencies, like the one Markus discovered.
> >
> > Also architecturally, I think it may create unnecessary complexity
> > (though I'm not certain I'm right here).  If what we want to achieve
> > is a certain flow of transactions through accounting, we can achieve
> > that with a static library, made available to all payment plugins.
> > You're going to have to provision a vendor specific-component via the
> > provisioner anyways.  Why add extra provisioning code?
> >
> > (I wrote this email with Fineract CN in mind, I haven't really thought
> > this through for Fineract yet.)
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:17 PM Myrle Krantz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Hey all,
> >>
> >> I'm glad to see so much interest.  I'm going to go ahead and create
> >> the repository and put my code of the last couple of days into it.  At
> >> this point this is more of a proof-of-concept than anything else.  As
> >> a developer, I'd like to discuss on the basis of implementation
> >> decisions, and that's so much easier if there is code to look at.
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Myrle
> >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:12 AM Brijesh Kumar <[email protected]> 
> >> wrote:
> >>> I agree with Steve. Cross-border payments space (FIAT) is fast adopting 
> >>> the
> >>> Interledger Protocol (ILP <https://interledger.org>). Mojaloop is an
> >>> implementation of ILP.
> >>> Hyperledger QUILT <https://www.hyperledger.org/projects/quilt> (Linux
> >>> Foundation) is a business blockchain tool which is interoperable with
> >>> ledger systems (Hyperledger Fabric/ Sawtooth/ Iroha) and the ILP.
> >>>
> >>> It would be good if requirements are drawn in a way that Stellar/Ripple,
> >>> Mojaloop/QUILT, MMPs could be seamlessly configured with Fineract CN for
> >>> domestic/ cross-border payments.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Brijesh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 5:56 AM, Steve Conrad <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi James and Myrle -
> >>>>
> >>>> I am wondering if we could combine these efforts to create a Stellar
> >>>> integration with the current payment gateway project that we are working
> >>>> on. Sanyam is developing this code under Rahul's mentorship. We designed
> >>>> the gateway to be very flexible so that we could configure any number of
> >>>> payment providers - MFIs, MMPs, or platforms like Mojaloop or
> >>>> Stellar/Ripple.
> >>>>
> >>>> While our development is currently oriented around Fineract V1, we have
> >>>> architected the gateway so that it can function as a micro-service and
> >>>> should be compatible with Fineract CN. All interactions with Fineract are
> >>>> done through ActiveMQ.
> >>>>
> >>>> Myrle, perhaps we could connect on your requirements and ensure that this
> >>>> gateway project will meet your needs as far as Stellar integration.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Steve
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:34 PM Myrle Krantz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> James,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just like Mojaloop, Stellar is a Ripple fork which exists primarily
> >>>>> for moving real currencies, not coins.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If Fineract were a business this might be seen to impinge on another
> >>>>> development direction by taking resources away from other efforts.
> >>>>> But in open source we're all free agents, so additive changes without
> >>>>> an impact on other repositories can't really be said to impinge on
> >>>>> anything.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hope to see you around here at OSCON!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>> Myrle
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:06 PM James Dailey <[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Myrle - I have some opinions about the business model of any block
> >>>>> chain
> >>>>>> / coin based approach to financial transactions, but no objections to
> >>>>>> widening the appeal.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I guess I'm unclear about the relationship between stellar connector
> >>>> and
> >>>>>> other connectors.  In an ideal world the architecture would allow for
> >>>>> ready
> >>>>>> made connection points so we don't create duplicative efforts.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For the good of the project I wonder if that could be made clear prior
> >>>> to
> >>>>>> bringing in code and/or how this code would impinge or not on any other
> >>>>>> development direction.  If that's already clear to everyone, please let
> >>>>> me
> >>>>>> know.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> James
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 7:01 AM Myrle Krantz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hey all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've been working since yesterday on a Fineract CN / Stellar bridge.
> >>>>>>> Basically I'm just copying the existing Fineract 1.x bridge that I
> >>>> did
> >>>>>>> for the Mifos Initiative, and adjusting it to the paradigms and
> >>>>>>> interfaces of Fineract CN.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'd like to develop it under the auspices of our project.  Are there
> >>>>>>> any objections?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>>>> Myrle
> >>>>>>>
>

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