+1 

1. KYC | AML| CFT is FUNDAMENTAL/MUST HAVE
2. Mifos/Fineract should rely on External Identity-Claim Services


The above are very strategic point that must be worked on.


Please go ahead with with Wiki Page.


Cheers

Sendoro


> 
>     On February 10, 2019 at 3:03 AM James Dailey <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>     I'd like to raise this important issue again. We are in the space of
>     financial services, and so we must express kyc/aml/cft regulations.
> 
>     Know Your Customer is a FUNDAMENTAL banking concept. It is currently
>     supported via account opening in fineract but more needs to be done.
> 
>     We must also address the opportunity and the gap in formal identity if we
>     are to be a serious player in financial inclusion. I don't believe 
> fineract
>     or mifos should do that function directly, but rather be able to speak to
>     various identity/claims services.
> 
>     At times a mifos implementation will have the best information about a
>     specific customer. This also relates to credit bureaus and again, the
>     concept of 'identity-claims'.
> 
>     I'd like to suggest that we get a wiki page and then some detailed
>     requirements going and develop some ticket. But, looking for someone to
>     support this in coding and someone else who has a need now for this
>     functionality.
> 
>     Jdailey67
> 
>     On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 10:28 AM Ed Cable <[email protected] wrote:
> 
>         > > 
> >         James,
> > 
> >         Thanks for starting up this topic on-list (I only just saw it now 
> > upon
> >         Isaac's reply). I will try to forwards this along to others who 
> > have been
> >         conversing on related topics of eKYC, verification via selfies, 
> > etc. I will
> >         also get some of my volunteers assisting on the AML/CFT front 
> > involved in
> >         this thread.
> > 
> >         Thank you also for bringing up our conversations with the INDY at 
> > OSCON, I
> >         will re-engage with Joyce so we can carry forward the conversations 
> > we
> >         started there.
> > 
> >         The discussion around identity and looking at claim-based systems 
> > and
> >         decentralized identities are all the more relevant as systems like 
> > Aadhar
> >         continue to get hacked and sensitive data gets exposed:
> > 
> >         
> > https://www.huffingtonpost.in/2018/09/11/uidai-s-aadhaar-software-hacked-id-database-compromised-experts-confirm_a_23522472/
> > 
> >         See some additional replies inline.
> > 
> >         On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 11:31 AM James Dailey 
> > <[email protected]>
> >         wrote:
> > 
> >             > > > 
> > >             Hi Devs -
> > > 
> > >             I'd like to raise an issue with regard to how Fineract 1.x 
> > > and the new
> > >             Fineract-CN treats the concept of Identity.
> > > 
> > >             I was recently looking at Isaac's work on
> > > 
> > >             
> > > https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-customer/pull/7/commits/65a88b9879a46103fae440c42d1b0058909a93aa
> > >             .
> > >             It got me thinking... I was unclear if the tests are fully 
> > > covering our
> > >             functionality, and wonder about how we are collectively 
> > > thinking about
> > >             identity.
> > > 
> > >             So, there has been a lot of work done recently on Digital 
> > > Identity and
> > >             Credentials globally. I think we should have as part of our 
> > > thinking and
> > >             structure of the identity service:
> > > 
> > >         > > 
> >         For these components and sub-components of Identity you are 
> > starting to
> >         flesh out below, it'd be great to synthesize into a 
> > requirements/spec doc
> >         on the. Fineract wiki.
> > 
> >         >
> > 
> >             > > >                1. Issuing authority (this could be any 
> > relevant civil authority such
> > >                   as
> > >                   Federal Government, State Department, Provincial 
> > > Gov't), any private
> > >                   or
> > >                   non-profit but recognized entity (e.g. University), and 
> > > also any
> > >                   commercial
> > >                   entity that has a pre-existing relationship including 
> > > Bank, Mobile
> > >                   Provider, Microfinance Entity, or even 
> > > Facebook/WeChat/Alibaba.
> > >                   When dealing with the unbanked, or underbanked, a form 
> > > of digital
> > >                   identity may be self-issued or issued on the spot, and 
> > > be trusted up
> > >                   to
> > >                   a
> > >                   point (see KYC below).
> > > 
> > >                2. Credentials and Forms of verification - this could be a 
> > > separate
> > >                   concept in Fineract of [one to many] relationship where 
> > > Fineract CN
> > >                   stores
> > >                   that information or simply notes that multiple sources 
> > > of verification
> > >                   of
> > >                   identity or "claims" have been verified. For example, a 
> > > person my
> > >                   present
> > >                   a paper form from the local utility company showing 
> > > they are a
> > >                   customer.
> > >                   Or, for example, a person may be verified by the mobile 
> > > provider as
> > >                   being
> > >                   on that network with that specific IMEI (device) and 
> > > that specific
> > >                   telephone number. I think it is important to treat such 
> > > forms as
> > >                   security
> > >                   tokens (encrypted).
> > > 
> > >         > > 
> >         Javier is working with a customer who want to do selfie-based eKYC 
> > for
> >         online account sign-ups. Some community members are quite expert on 
> > eKYC
> >         processes as part of the loan origination workflow. I'll have those 
> > inputs
> >         be voiced here.
> > 
> >         >
> > 
> >             > > >                1. Claims - there have been attempts at 
> > the W3C (world wide web
> > >                   consortium) related to the issue of verification of 
> > > digital identity,
> > >                   to
> > >                   describe these as "claims" where an individual may have 
> > > multiple
> > >                   sources in
> > >                   the formal and informal sectors by which they can claim 
> > > identity. I
> > >                   think
> > >                   of Claims as IssuingAuthority+Verified, but that may be
> > >                   oversimplification. Please see
> > >                   https://www.w3.org/TR/verifiable-claims-use-cases/ .
> > > 
> > >                2. Relationship with KYC and AML/CFT - In Mifos and now in 
> > > Fineract we
> > >                   have a set of requirements around the relationship 
> > > between the
> > >                   validity
> > >                   of
> > >                   the identity against regulations dealing with "know 
> > > your customer" and
> > >                   "anti-money-laundering" (inbound flows) and "counter 
> > > the financing of
> > >                   terrorism" (outbound flows). These requirements 
> > > generally start with
> > >                   KYC
> > >                   where the levels are generally thought of as KYC-0 
> > > (e.g. we don't know
> > >                   much
> > >                   about them, but the authorities allow us to transact up 
> > > to $300 per
> > >                   month),
> > >                   KYC-1, KYC-2, up to KYC-3 (e.g.they have a formal and 
> > > verified
> > >                   identity
> > >                   credential from the national biometric system and they 
> > > have up to the
> > >                   limit
> > >                   of banking rules) In Fineract, I believe that what 
> > > needs to be
> > >                   stored
> > >                   is
> > >                   the initial authorized level of KYC, the record of how 
> > > much is
> > >                   expected
> > >                   to
> > >                   be transacted and then a calculated actual amount 
> > > transacted so that
> > >                   exceptional transactions can be flagged, and the 
> > > movement from one KYC
> > >                   level to another. It is common in banking at least to 
> > > have a SAR
> > >                   (Suspicious Activity Report) based on a comparison of 
> > > expected
> > >                   transactions
> > >                   and actual. The banking sector has been practicing this 
> > > for a long
> > >                   time
> > >                   and rules are understood.
> > > 
> > >         > > 
> >         I will get Shabbir our CFT/AML expert to chime in on this thread and
> >         advance his thinking on the generic framework-level components we 
> > could
> >         implement to assist with compliance. As you also might already 
> > know, Ankur
> >         as part of his GSOC project for the mobile wallet, worked on 
> > incorporating
> >         into the front-end some of the elements of tiered KYC. You can see 
> > his
> >         implementation at
> >         https://gist.github.com/ankurs287/d9ef88cedcebe678f09fd555b17c7546
> > 
> >         and the discussion thread that Sundari started at
> > 
> >         
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/fineract-dev/201806.mbox/%3CCAPnWRTjQHjys=vBFqkVqb7GZPo0iq7VFuGxP6sr-K0h55wK=m...@mail.gmail.com%3E
> > 
> >         >
> >         >
> > 
> >             > > > 
> > >             At OSCON we also learned about INDY, which is part of the 
> > > Hyperledger
> > >             project, and deals with Identity using some new distributed 
> > > ledger based
> > >             tools. I think it would be interesting to create a proof of 
> > > concept
> > >             where
> > >             we link our identity service to the Indy code.
> > > 
> > >             
> > > https://www.hyperledger.org/blog/2017/05/02/hyperledger-welcomes-project-indy
> > >             . This builds out the concept of a globally accessible public 
> > > utility
> > >             for
> > >             decentralized identity.
> > > 
> > >             What would be a useful next step on this? Hoping for comments 
> > > and
> > >             exploration of requirements.
> > > 
> > >             Thanks,
> > >             James
> > > 
> > >         > > 
> >         --
> >         *Ed Cable*
> >         President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
> >         [email protected] | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
> > 
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