On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 5:53 PM Aleksandar Vidakovic <
[email protected]> wrote:

> :+1: for the "Recommended Implementation Partners"... informally I think
> some people know these companies already, but it's a great idea to make
> this more visible.
>

BTW I was specifically thinking not ONLY of "these companies" but.. anyone
interested. Other users? Students? Why not!


On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 5:34 PM Michael Vorburger <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello Airsay & everyone,
>>
>> Airsay raised the following interesting question on the "Fineract
>> Customization" email thread, which to me seems worth discussing on a fresh
>> new email thread here:
>>
>> "Are there any avenues to donate to the project to have specific
>> functionality built into Fineract?"
>>
>> So, you CAN donate to the ASF at https://donate.apache.org, but this
>> ("just") contributes to the capex & opex costs of e.g.the Apache Software
>> Foundation (ASF) running issues.apache.org etc. for all projects.
>>
>> You CANNOT donate directly to our Apache Fineract project, and that's
>> perhaps a Good Thing and a Feature, not a Bug? ;-) It would be complicated
>> to determine where such money would go (IMHO).
>>
>> You COULD certainly just donate to specific individuals; e.g. I
>> personally set up https://github.com/sponsors/vorburger once.. :-)
>>
>> BUT I suspect that you may really be asking something else... what you
>> possibly are really getting at here is "I have problem XYZ or feature
>> request ABC, and am looking for someone to implement that for me, and am
>> willing to pay any interested party real money to do so" - am I right in
>> assuming that may at least partially be the real question that you were
>> asking?
>>
>> As far as I know, there absolutely are parties possibly interested in
>> working with folks such as you like this  (for full disclosure: I
>> personally am NOT one of them). But perhaps it's not so obvious to you how
>> to connect with such parties? I believe we all together as the project
>> community could perhaps do better at enabling this. A while ago we
>> discussed some ideas about creating some sort of magical sophisticated
>> "matchmaking marketplace" site for such requests. We haven't really
>> progressed on this, but... perhaps this really isn't that complicated? I
>> have a simple suggestion for you, and anyone else interested:
>>
>> If you need something done which you don't have the know how for
>> implementing yourself, and don't want to wait for a volunteer to possibly
>> look into some day, then first create a JIRA issue describing whatever it
>> is - as always. Then send a short email to this developer mailing list
>> sounding something like this: Subject: "$€¥£₱ for FINERACT-123", Body:
>> "Hello, we need FINERACT-123, and are willing to pay a mutually agreed upon
>> fee we'll privately settle on first to anyone interested who is able to
>> fully implement that to our specification when a Pull Request for the
>> requested functionality was made available and merged into the develop
>> branch of Fineract. Please direct reply offlist to me with any questions
>> and your proposed quotes for implementing issue FINERACT-123."
>>
>> BTW if I were you, I would fairly strongly feel that it is in both YOUR
>> and this community's interest to have any such work done "upstream first",
>> on https://github.com/apache/fineract. To you, it makes it easier to
>> upgrade to new releases. To us, it helps move a common unified code base
>> with new features and bug fixes forward. If it's functionality that someone
>> implements for you on a "private fork" that they are offering you, then
>> discussing that, IMHO, should not happen on this public mailing list at
>> all. We do understand that sometimes customization requests require changes
>> to existing code, but believe that it's possible to combine "upstream
>> first" and "local customizations" through modularity; there is currently
>> new energy on exploring this (NB FINERACT-1127 & FINERACT-1171) - more
>> about that separately later.
>>
>> Maybe you'll get 0 replies to such an email. But IMHO it's worth giving
>> that a try and see what you get... I'm (very) curious myself! It's IMHO
>> totally OK for follow-up discussions to be held privately. We the community
>> would simply see JIRAs being self assigned, pull requests being raised,
>> reviewed and merged. Money may have flown to Make It So - there's nothing
>> wrong with that (at least to me personally), and that doesn't have to be
>> public on list.
>>
>> If something like the model outlined here takes on and proves to work,
>> then the Apache Fineract community could eventually even start to maintain
>> some sort of list, in a simple MD doc on Git, about "Recommended
>> Implementation Partners" - based on publicly verifiable contribution track
>> records (i.e. merged PRs) by parties offering such services in reply to
>> "$€¥£₱ for FINERACT-123" email threads.
>>
>> Further thoughts on this topic very much welcome on this public thread!
>>
>> M.
>>
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