Hi Arnold

Looks like a smooth transition. Can you share what are the benefits we
should expect to get from Liquibase over Flyway?

Cheers
Petri

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022, 03:14 Arnold Galovics <galovicsarn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> Just wanted to let you know that the PR is ready for the Flyway to
> Liquibase change. https://github.com/apache/fineract/pull/2030
> The change is planned to be included only in 1.7 and not targeted for 1.6.
>
> I'd like to assure everybody that the forward upgrade is going to be fully
> automatic from Fineract 1.6 to Fineract 1.7, there's no need for manual
> changes.
>
> The automatic upgrade works in 3 different ways depending on the scenario:
> - If the database is completely empty, it's going to apply all changesets
> from the Liquibase changelogs
> - If the database contains the changes from the last Flyway migration
> scripts included in Fineract 1.6. In that case, a seamless upgrade is going
> to happen to Liquibase
> - If the database contains Flyway changes but it's not running the latest
> migration scripts from 1.6 - i.e. the Fineract version being ran is
> pre-1.6. In that case the application startup will fail, notifying the
> operator in the logs that first they shall upgrade to 1.6 and then to 1.7
>
> Let me know if you have any thoughts on the changes.
>
> Best,
> Arnold
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:33 PM VICTOR MANUEL ROMERO RODRIGUEZ <
> victor.rom...@fintecheando.mx> wrote:
>
>> Alberto,
>>
>> Can you share your thoughts?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Victor
>>
>>
>>
>> El mar, 8 feb 2022 a las 4:19, Aleksandar Vidakovic (<
>> chee...@monkeysintown.com>) escribió:
>>
>>> ... YAML, XML or JSON... all good for me... in the end very easy to
>>> transform with Jackson in a one liner if someone needs a different
>>> format...
>>>
>>> So, have no preference here... let's see what the community has to say...
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 10:56 AM Arnold Galovics <
>>> galovicsarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Aleks,
>>>>
>>>> Good to know.
>>>>
>>>> Any preference for YAML versus XML format?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Arnold
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 10:43 AM Aleksandar Vidakovic <
>>>> chee...@monkeysintown.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Arnold,
>>>>>
>>>>> ... personally, I am looking forward to seeing this one happen...
>>>>> Postgres support is one of the things that I hear people requesting more
>>>>> and more often. And having used Liquibase myself in other projects, I have
>>>>> to say that I find it a lot easier to use and much cleaner. One thing that
>>>>> I could create relatively easily based on Liquibase changeset files (in
>>>>> this case I used YAML): I've created a little command line tool with JBang
>>>>> to generate PlantUML ERD diagrams... something that is a lot harder to
>>>>> achieve with plain DDL scripts and Flyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree to include this one after 1.6... that gives us some time to
>>>>> hash out backward compatibility (or not) and figure out how to make the
>>>>> transition as easy as possible for everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Aleks
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 10:08 AM Arnold Galovics <
>>>>> galovicsarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was scanning through some tickets and found FINERACT-984
>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-984>: Postgres
>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm glad this has been brought up already. I thought about some
>>>>>> potential paths forward to support Postgres in Fineract, let me explain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First of all, I've gotta say Postgres would be a great addition to
>>>>>> the current Fineract project because - at least from my experience -
>>>>>> Postgres often outperforms MySQL performance-wise. At one of my previous
>>>>>> projects - which was a completely different product from Fineract - we 
>>>>>> used
>>>>>> AWS cloud to deploy the application and we were planning to use AWS 
>>>>>> Aurora
>>>>>> to boost the performance but we weren't sure whether AWS Aurora MySQL or
>>>>>> Aurora PostgreSQL is the way to go, so we decided to measure it. Aurora
>>>>>> Postgre was way better than Aurora MySQL in terms of performance but I
>>>>>> can't really share numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With that said, the first step in my opinion would be to try to do
>>>>>> database-independent schema migrations for which we could use Liquibase
>>>>>> instead of Flyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With Liquibase we could write the schemas in a single format and in
>>>>>> the future apply to either MySQL or PostgreSQL. In addition, Liquibase 
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> supports native SQL migrations so we are not losing any functionality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm happy to take this work up and make the necessary changes to
>>>>>> Fineract.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note: I'm not targeting 1.6 with this change but a later release.
>>>>>> Note2: I've created a ticket as well to track this. FINERACT-1498
>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-1498>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know your thoughts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Arnold
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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