+1 (binding)

On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 11:12 AM Petri Tuomola <pe...@tuomola.org> wrote:

> +1 binding
>
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, 02:44 Bharath Gowda, <bgo...@mifos.org> wrote:
>
>> +1 (binding)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bharath
>> Lead Implementation Analyst | Mifos Initiative
>> Skype: live:cbharath4| Mobile: +91.7019635592
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>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 6:10 AM Aleksandar Vidakovic <
>> chee...@monkeysintown.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 (binding)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 1:26 AM James Dailey <jdai...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please indicate:
>>>> [+1] in favor
>>>> [-1] opposed
>>>> [0] neutral
>>>>
>>>> and if your vote is binding.  (PMC member)
>>>>
>>>> Let's complete voting within 48 hours or I will assume lazy consensus
>>>> on this.
>>>> (lack of discussion suggests that to me)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: James Dailey <jamespdai...@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 4:23 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Remove support for any non-current version
>>>> To: <dev@fineract.apache.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adam - thanks for the input.  Seeing no other discussion, I'm calling a
>>>> vote next.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 1:09 AM Ádám Sághy <adamsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear James and fellow community members,
>>>>>
>>>>> Here comes my 2 cents:
>>>>>
>>>>> Taking into consideration our releases have been infrequent, I would
>>>>> say supporting only the current release makes sense to me!
>>>>> We can always decide later we would like to backport a security fix
>>>>> optionally….
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>> > On 8 Jan 2025, at 19:57, <jdai...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > All -  Our current support promise is to support at least one
>>>>> version back.  We do not backport the security fixes to any previous
>>>>> releases except for "one version before". That is the current policy
>>>>> internally, and it is up to us to decide if we want to continue.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Our releases have been infrequent and backporting security fixes to
>>>>> previous releases seems quite out of reach given the amount of capacity we
>>>>> seem to have for this.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I also note that we get very few queries when we do so for upgrades.
>>>>> My intuition is that most folks are either building their internal
>>>>> production from the tip of dev on github or upgrading via patch for
>>>>> critical items.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Therefore, my proposal, which we need to VOTE on, is to remove
>>>>> support for any non-current release. That is, when we do a release, we 
>>>>> will
>>>>> need only to support the current release.   Previous releases will
>>>>> immediately become unsupported. There will be a period of at least one 
>>>>> week
>>>>> of notice prior to a release happening.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The implication for this is that the CVEs, when they are revealed,
>>>>> will be available as an attack vector. We do so according to published ASF
>>>>> practices.  So, that is the downside, but I believe it is manageable if
>>>>> production users are aware and able to find the code fixes according to 
>>>>> our
>>>>> practices and apply as necessary to their instances, or to upgrade.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > My current plan is to remove the release 1.9 from the website and
>>>>> move it to archives.  So, even if we have this policy, for me to complete
>>>>> release 1.10.1, and move onto release 1.11.0 we will need to do this.
>>>>> (unless someone steps up)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The new policy would read:
>>>>> > The fineract project sets the expectation that only the current
>>>>> release has fixes to public CVEs and no backporting of those CVEs to
>>>>> previous versions will take place, except in unusual situations.  If there
>>>>> are available resources, the community can expect one previous version
>>>>> support and in the future there may be a decision to have a "long term
>>>>> support" (LTS) version.  Until then, we commit to making a one week
>>>>> notification of end of life for all previous versions.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Moreover, I am now informing the community of an exceptional case to
>>>>> our current policy, which is that the version 1.9.0 is end of life (EOL)
>>>>> within the next 7 days.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If you have views on this specific topic, please share.  Discussion
>>>>> open for 72 hrs.  Then I will call for a VOTE.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> > - James
>>>>> > PMC member, current release manager
>>>>> > PMC Chair
>>>>>
>>>>>

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