Thanks guys for the tips.
I'll definitely look at the git history and wikis, get my bearings and
contact some of you about the call.

Although, I must highlight that for now we would like to limit ourselves to
performance improvements that - with luck - could be solved in days, rather
than month-long big refactoring with thousands of LoC. :)

@Aleks: Leaving JPA/ORM is an interesting thing, from what we've noticed in
the SolDevelo's projects the JPA (Hibernate impl) itself is not that slow,
but rather it's easy to write it slow - the promise that developers can
forget what relation db is, is a little bit of a lie.

Best regards,
PiotrW



On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 3:10 AM Aleksandar Vidakovic <
chee...@monkeysintown.com> wrote:

> I know of two benchmarking efforts, but both are not public.
>
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2025, 22:47 Tom Daly, <tdal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Aleks, all.
>>
>> Is there a good set of perf benchmarking tools for measuring fineract +
>> db perf and scalability ?
>>
>> thanks
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23 Mar 2025, at 3:22 pm, Aleksandar Vidakovic <
>> chee...@monkeysintown.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Piotr,
>>
>> ... my 2 cents for performance challenges:
>>
>>    - modularity: we have a tendency to not respect domain boundaries...
>>    which leads to...
>>    - database structure (read: too many relationships)
>>    - JPA/ORM: convenient, but comes with a price; a lot of newer
>>    "modules" come with native SQL instead... which leads to other challenges
>>    (not type safe, unreadable code due to string concatenation, security
>>    issues again through string concatenation...); QueryDSL would be great
>>    here...
>>    - manual JSON parsing: we should be using Jackson, but in fact we use
>>    Google GSON with a lot of boilerplate  handcrafted code
>>    - synchronous execution: virtual threads might help; there is a new
>>    proposal for handling write requests, see
>>    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-2169, also
>>    https://github.com/apache/fineract/pull/4281
>>    - REST API layer implemented in JAX-RS: I can't really say if there
>>    is a performance penalty using JAX-RS with recent implementation versions
>>    (we use Jersey, fairly up to date) vs Spring MVC... but JAX-RS is
>>    definitely not a first class citizen in the Spring ecosystem; this is why
>>    we have the most important tests as integration tests (with a lot of
>>    handcrafted client code); performance challenges: test execution time and
>>    developer time (maintenance is difficult, code not refactoring friendly)
>>
>> ... here and there there are ongoing efforts to address some of these
>> issues (e.g. as part of Google Summer of Code), but there is still a lot to
>> do...
>>
>> Ping me if you want to chat on Zoom in more detail...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Aleks
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 3:33 AM James Dailey <jdai...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Piotr - great!
>>>
>>> I would suggest that you examine the new code (contributed last 18 -36
>>> months) and note where the code has NOT been updated.
>>>
>>> I believe that the key performance issues are going to be in areas
>>> (modules) that haven’t been refactored.
>>>
>>> And, then please follow the refactoring patterns  - to keep code as
>>> maintainable as possible. That’s the high level.
>>>
>>> In terms of performance- there’s also a need to look at the build and
>>> test performance- and you can find the discussions on the listserv
>>> archives.
>>>
>>> Finally take a look at the FSIPs on the wiki.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 2:45 AM Piotr Wargulak
>>> <pwargu...@soldevelo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Community,
>>>>
>>>> At SolDevelo, we’re eager to help tackle some of the performance
>>>> challenges in Apache Fineract. We want to focus on real issues that users
>>>> face—ones where improvements would bring meaningful value to the community.
>>>> To make sure we're addressing the right problems, we’d love your input!
>>>>
>>>> In the coming days, we’ll dive deeper into Apache Fineract to identify
>>>> potential areas for optimization. However, if there are already well-known
>>>> performance bottlenecks, we’d greatly appreciate any insights you can 
>>>> share.
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to your thoughts!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Piotr Wargulak
>>>> SolDevelo.com
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>

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