Thanks guys for the tips. I'll definitely look at the git history and wikis, get my bearings and contact some of you about the call.
Although, I must highlight that for now we would like to limit ourselves to performance improvements that - with luck - could be solved in days, rather than month-long big refactoring with thousands of LoC. :) @Aleks: Leaving JPA/ORM is an interesting thing, from what we've noticed in the SolDevelo's projects the JPA (Hibernate impl) itself is not that slow, but rather it's easy to write it slow - the promise that developers can forget what relation db is, is a little bit of a lie. Best regards, PiotrW On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 3:10 AM Aleksandar Vidakovic < chee...@monkeysintown.com> wrote: > I know of two benchmarking efforts, but both are not public. > > On Sun, 23 Mar 2025, 22:47 Tom Daly, <tdal...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Aleks, all. >> >> Is there a good set of perf benchmarking tools for measuring fineract + >> db perf and scalability ? >> >> thanks >> Tom >> >> >> >> On 23 Mar 2025, at 3:22 pm, Aleksandar Vidakovic < >> chee...@monkeysintown.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Piotr, >> >> ... my 2 cents for performance challenges: >> >> - modularity: we have a tendency to not respect domain boundaries... >> which leads to... >> - database structure (read: too many relationships) >> - JPA/ORM: convenient, but comes with a price; a lot of newer >> "modules" come with native SQL instead... which leads to other challenges >> (not type safe, unreadable code due to string concatenation, security >> issues again through string concatenation...); QueryDSL would be great >> here... >> - manual JSON parsing: we should be using Jackson, but in fact we use >> Google GSON with a lot of boilerplate handcrafted code >> - synchronous execution: virtual threads might help; there is a new >> proposal for handling write requests, see >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-2169, also >> https://github.com/apache/fineract/pull/4281 >> - REST API layer implemented in JAX-RS: I can't really say if there >> is a performance penalty using JAX-RS with recent implementation versions >> (we use Jersey, fairly up to date) vs Spring MVC... but JAX-RS is >> definitely not a first class citizen in the Spring ecosystem; this is why >> we have the most important tests as integration tests (with a lot of >> handcrafted client code); performance challenges: test execution time and >> developer time (maintenance is difficult, code not refactoring friendly) >> >> ... here and there there are ongoing efforts to address some of these >> issues (e.g. as part of Google Summer of Code), but there is still a lot to >> do... >> >> Ping me if you want to chat on Zoom in more detail... >> >> Cheers, >> >> Aleks >> >> On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 3:33 AM James Dailey <jdai...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Piotr - great! >>> >>> I would suggest that you examine the new code (contributed last 18 -36 >>> months) and note where the code has NOT been updated. >>> >>> I believe that the key performance issues are going to be in areas >>> (modules) that haven’t been refactored. >>> >>> And, then please follow the refactoring patterns - to keep code as >>> maintainable as possible. That’s the high level. >>> >>> In terms of performance- there’s also a need to look at the build and >>> test performance- and you can find the discussions on the listserv >>> archives. >>> >>> Finally take a look at the FSIPs on the wiki. >>> >>> James >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 2:45 AM Piotr Wargulak >>> <pwargu...@soldevelo.com.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Community, >>>> >>>> At SolDevelo, we’re eager to help tackle some of the performance >>>> challenges in Apache Fineract. We want to focus on real issues that users >>>> face—ones where improvements would bring meaningful value to the community. >>>> To make sure we're addressing the right problems, we’d love your input! >>>> >>>> In the coming days, we’ll dive deeper into Apache Fineract to identify >>>> potential areas for optimization. However, if there are already well-known >>>> performance bottlenecks, we’d greatly appreciate any insights you can >>>> share. >>>> >>>> Looking forward to your thoughts! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Piotr Wargulak >>>> SolDevelo.com >>>> >>>> >>>> *SolDevelo* Sp. z o.o. [LLC] / www.soldevelo.com >>>> Al. Zwycięstwa 96/98 >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Al.+Zwyci%C4%99stwa+96%2F98?entry=gmail&source=g>, >>>> 81-451, Gdynia, Poland >>>> Phone: +48 58 782 45 40 / Fax: +48 58 782 45 41 >>>> >>> >> -- * SolDevelo* Sp. z o.o. [LLC] / www.soldevelo.com <http://www.soldevelo.com> Al. Zwycięstwa 96/98, 81-451, Gdynia, Poland Phone: +48 58 782 45 40 / Fax: +48 58 782 45 41