I would expect anyone working on one of these services to have rights to
the other services too, and to participate in conversations about the
others. I wouldn't want to segment the community.  Just the code.  I like
being able to download artifacts instead of code to speed up a build.  I
like having just the code I am working on open.  I appreciate the
discipline having physically separate code bases adds to my own thought
processes.  I also would prefer to be able to upgrade each of the
microservices independently of the others in a deployment (within
reasonable limits) and be able to correspond one branch in one repository
to one microservice release.

I doubt the incubator community would want to review up to 10 releases for
one community, so I don't think a 1 TLP :: 1 microservice approach would be
accepted by Apache.

Greets,
Myrle



*Myrle Krantz*
Solutions Architect
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On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Keith Woodlock <keithwoodl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Myrle, Markus,
>
> For lots of reasons it would make sense for the Fineract Platform to be one
> project (on apache and github).
>
> If the main driver for saying service-per-repository is about putting in a
> physical barrier to stop developers leaking code or abstractions into one
> another then I think having just one code repository / project is fine and
> you need to split the 'Fineract Platform' into a number of sub-projects
> (folders) for each service.
>
> A quick example of that type of setup would be:
> https://github.com/ewolff/microservice, the microservice-demo folder is
> split into the various services that compose it etc
>
> regards,
> Keith.
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> > At Apache we don't like umbrella projects - that is projects that can
> > stand on their own as separate projects being gathered together under
> > one-uber project. This tends to be damaging for community development.
> > However, there is nothing wrong with one project having multiple
> "services"
> > each represented as a separate project within a parent PMC when those
> > services are not useful projects outside of Fineract itself.
> >
> > Another warning sign is if the services start to build their own
> > governance structure within the parent project. Merit earned on one part
> of
> > a Top Level Project gives equal authority over all other parts. Now you
> may
> > have social policies that say "don't touch code you don't understand" but
> > you can't have byelaws that prevent it. If it is necessary to separate
> your
> > community in this way then you probably need to have multiple TLPs.
> >
> > So the answer is "it depends ;-)
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Markus Geiß [mailto:markus.ge...@live.de]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 12:29 AM
> > > To: dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: RE: [MENTORS] multiple repos for one Apache Product?
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 20:33:06 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: [MENTORS] multiple repos for one Apache Product?
> > > > From: ro...@shaposhnik.org
> > > > To: dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:27 AM, Myrle Krantz <mkra...@mifos.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> Hi Mentors,
> > > >>
> > > >> I asked this question in the thread on microservices, but the e-mail
> > > >> was long and most of the content was not relevant for you guys so
> you
> > > >> may have missed it:
> > > >>
> > > >> As far as I can tell the current mode of operation at Apache is one
> > > >> repository to one product. I would prefer to work with one
> repository
> > > >> per service. I believe that would help programmers remain strict
> > > >> about division of labor between the services, and think more
> > > >> carefully about interface breaking changes. Is there any reason a
> > > >> product can't have multiple repositories?
> > > >
> > > > Multiple repos are, of course, permissible. However, the question you
> > > > should be asking your self are more along the lines of how much of a
> > > > de-couple release policy AND community participation do you want to
> > > > have between these projects. Because the thing is, if your repos are
> > > > independent enough wrt. release schedules AND independent enough
> > > > regarding who commits to them ASF will be asking a question of
> breaking
> > > you into a set of projects.
> > > >
> > > > Does this answer you question?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Roman.
> > >
> > > Hey Roman,
> > >
> > > thanks for the answer. ; o)
> > >
> > > To provide a little more context. We are currently working on a
> > per-service
> > > repository approach to reduce unwanted cross service usage of internal
> > classes
> > > and implementations.
> > >
> > > Every business domain will become a micro service and a single
> > repository with
> > > multiple modules.
> > >
> > > Do you think this approach would lead to get asked by ASF to break into
> > > multiple projects? It wouldn't be that bad if we'd treat these as
> > sub-project of
> > > Fineract as the TLP umbrella for them.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Markus
> > >
> > > .::YAGNI likes a DRY KISS::.
> > >
> >
>

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