It would be interesting to divvy up a full mustella run across several
computers and see how fast it can get done.


On 2/19/13 10:41 AM, "JP Bader" <j...@zavteq.com> wrote:

> Same here, I have a box that I could probably toss into the mix, if anyone
> can give me a configuration image or something similar, I can boot up a win
> box and make a CI happen as well.
> 
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Avi Kessner <akess...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hmm, I have a spare desktop, what is needed to turn it into a ci server? It
>> has 2gb ram and is about 5 years old.
>> On Feb 19, 2013 8:25 PM, "Om" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The problem with Apache CI is that there are a lot of restrictions.
>>>  Running tests for hours together is not an option.  Moreover, since it
>> is
>>> a shared environment, the build servers go down a lot and it takes
>>> weeks/months to get a broken job fixed.
>>> 
>>> We need something robust that we can manage ourselves.  It does not have
>> to
>>> be a hosted VM, it can as well be someone's unused computer somewhere.
>>  One
>>> could theoretically install Jenkins and set up a job to pull every night
>>> and run the tests.  I
>>> 
>>> In my case, I don't have any spare computers, so I started toying around
>>> with Amazon EC2.  If someone can set it up anywhere and let the group
>> know
>>> when things break, that would be a good start.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Christofer Dutz <
>>> christofer.d...@c-ware.de
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server for that.
>>>> Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually
>> Jetbrains
>>>> could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
>>>> pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just for the
>>>> nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
>>>> webdoubl...@hotmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>  It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on git, as
>>>>> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Fred
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>>>> 
>>>>> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
>>>>> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some
>> of
>>>>> my cases).  It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and
>> how
>>>>> much you are storing...  If you are pulling full builds each night,
>> that
>>>>> could be quite a bit..
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Nick
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> From [1]:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year
>> contract
>>>>>> would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we
>> run
>>>>>> once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
>>>>>> mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
>>>>>> take something like $1500.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
>>>>>> transfer, access)?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
>>>>>> that kind of money together, couldn't we?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> EdB
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<
>>> http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
>>>>>>> powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing
>>> to
>>>>>>> donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this
>> happen,
>>>>>>> and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> EdB
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.d...@c-ware.de
>>>>>>> <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well I spoke with
>>>>>>>> Toan Nguyen
>>>>>>>> Enterprise Sales Manager
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
>>>>>>>> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the
>>> one
>>>>>> responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide
>>> Medium
>>>>>> Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go
>>>>>> around
>>>>>> giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence
>> of
>>>>> what
>>>>>> he told me).
>>>>>>>> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ______________________________**__________
>>>>>>>> Von: Harbs [gavha...@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
>>>>>>>> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a
>>> canned
>>>>>> response?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be
>>> different. I
>>>>>> can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to
>>> Apache
>>>>>> FlexŠ Anyone have a contact there?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real
>>> pullŠ
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to
>> them
>>>>> and
>>>>>> it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free
>>>>> offer.
>>>>>> Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable
>>> trunk.
>>>>>> Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining
>> the
>>>>>> entire test suite.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>>>>>>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bigosma...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You are awesome!  I never thought of contacting them and just
>>>>> asking
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
>>>>>> christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing
>>> about
>>>>>> an open
>>>>>>>>>>> source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and
>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always
>>>>> decide
>>>>>> on how
>>>>>>>>>>> we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>>>>>>>>>>> jus...@classsoftware.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on
>>>>> this,
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using
>>> it
>>>>> as
>>>>>> a test
>>>>>>>>>>>> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to
>> keep
>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
>>>>>> bigger) ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from
>> them
>>>>>> what they
>>>>>>>>>>>> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and
>> the
>>>>>> tests only
>>>>>>>>>>>> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or
>>> OSX).
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>>>>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> T. 06-51952295
>>>>>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>>>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> T. 06-51952295
>>>>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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