Oh, and in my enthusiasm I forget an obvious resource: the commits@ mailing list. It receives notifications of all the commits made to all Apache Flex repos.
Send an email to 'commits-subscr...@flex.apache.org' and join the fun. EdB On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote: > Terry, > >> A. Where in the downloadable files is a version of Falcon that can be used >> to compile an mxml file? > > I'm not sure what you mean by downloadable files. There hasn't been a > release of Falcon yet, so there are no source or binary releases. You > can get the source from git and build the compiler yourself, there is > even a halfway decent README that should help you get started. > >> B. Where can I register to receive nightly updates showing which tests of >> the Falcon compiler have succeeded and which have failed in compiling an >> mxml file in the appropriate Jenkins runs? > > You don't have to register. Like everything else in Open Source and > especially with Apache.org, you can see for yourself, it's all > available publicly: > > https://builds.apache.org/job/flex-falcon/ > >> C. Where can I register to receive notification of each checkin showing >> changes to the Falcon compiler project. > > Again, no registration needed. You can create a clone of the git repo > with this command: > > git clone https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/flex-falcon.git flex-falcon > > This clone will have the full history of the development of the Falcon > and FalconJx compilers readily available for your perusal. Do a simple > git pull when you want to check the most recent updates. > > HTH, > > EdB > > > >> >> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote: >> >>> Terry, >>> >>> I don't see where your fear and anger is coming from. The release >>> we're currently working on is purely the Flex SDK; all the >>> improvements and fixes are for SWF output, JavaScript is not even an >>> option. >>> >>> Meanwhile, the work on FlexJS is a separate stream in the project. And >>> even FlexJS will offer the usual SWF output, while ADDING the extra >>> option of 'web native' output as a release build. >>> >>> The Falcon compiler is a fork of the ASC 2.0 compiler and will, >>> together with FalconJx, one day replace the 'old' compiler. More >>> importantly, and what you apparently haven't realised yet, is that the >>> FalconJx cross compiler that's at the core of FlexJS relies heavily on >>> the Falcon compiler. That means, there will be no full FlexJS release >>> WITHOUT a 'completed' Falcon compiler. So, instead of diverting >>> resources away from the pure SDK, FlexJS is actually helping to move >>> the entire project to meet your 'demands'. >>> >>> Please stop with the FUD and help us make Apache Flex an even greater tool. >>> >>> If you want to contribute to the continued support and improvement of >>> the Flex SDK, you can either use the new version of the Installer >>> (currently a Release Candidate) to download and install the SDK to >>> your IDE, or download one the nightly builds from: >>> >>> >>> https://builds.apache.org/job/flex-sdk_release/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/out/ >>> >>> and work from the command line. Any input you can give the project is >>> much appreciated! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> EdB >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Terry Corbet <terry.cor...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > First, it has only been necessary to make such demands because there has >>> > been no championing of this task amongst the primary movers of the Flex >>> > Apache project. I applaud every improvement, every success that Alex has >>> > in meeting his objective with his unidentified in house customer who what >>> > been driving the allocation of efforts towards their goal, but their goal >>> > was not the primary goal of picking up the support of Flex by the >>> > community. If you step back and take a hard, objective look at the very >>> > facts motivated by your marketing person's asking for answers to the >>> > business-making decisions that will be made concerning whether or not to >>> > invest in the framework, you will notice that there really are no strong >>> > motivators amongst the thousands of hours you have all spent in turning >>> out >>> > the remarkable 4.10 release. >>> > >>> > I'm sorry, I know that hurts, but the fact of the matter is that the only >>> > reason I have to deciding to compile with 4.10 plus 3.8 instead of 4.6 >>> plus >>> > 3.8 is to help you debug/quality-assure the release. That's an >>> investment >>> > to help the community, not my in house customers. For my own set of >>> needs >>> > every single advancement is attributable to enhancements in the >>> underlying >>> > Adobe engines from the time of the Flex divestiture. It is what is in >>> > 11.6, 11.7, 11.8, what is in 3.6, 3.7, 3.8, that I am able to provide a >>> > richer solution today than a year ago. >>> > >>> > That in no way diminishes the importance of what you have accomplished >>> but >>> > if it does not make the point that moving from an application framework >>> > that runs atop the two Adobe virtual machines of Flash Player and AIR to >>> > one that will run atop whomevers browser is completely uninteresting to >>> > some of us invested in Flex for large, complex, compute-intensive, >>> desktop >>> > applications, I don't know what else to say. I hope that running in >>> > browsers will make tons of folks happy, all I want is that someone be >>> > concerned about making sure that running on desktops and tablets be the >>> > best that it can be. >>> > >>> > Second, what I will contribute is daily testing of Falcon against the >>> needs >>> > of those kinds of applications. >>> > >>> > Third, since I do not have the resources you have at your disposal, >>> cannot >>> > compile the framework, please instruct me on where I can download >>> whatever >>> > set of binaries and any contingent libraries will allow me, just from >>> some >>> > simple command line environment to invoke the equivalent of amxmlc >>> some.as >>> > or amxmlc some.mxml and get a swf file that can be run with adl to give >>> you >>> > feedback. >>> > >>> > Fourth, I am signed up for all the lists of which I am aware, please tell >>> > me where I can watch the nightly progress of Gordon's latest tests >>> against >>> > whatever set of bugs he is working his way through. If such a list had >>> > ever been published, it would have been possible to construct some test >>> > cases to go against whatever remaining, corner conditions have prevented >>> > your being able to include the Falcon compiler in your 4.10 release. It >>> is >>> > clear that you ahve such a prioritized list that has helped the wonderful >>> > progress with FalconJX and the JavaScript world. With some visibility to >>> > your process we ought to be able to surpass that rate of success in >>> getting >>> > Falcon for Flex out the door. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Ok, Terry, you made your wishes (dare I say demands?) clear. Now I ask >>> >> you this: how are YOU going to contribute to make this happen? >>> >> >>> >> EdB >>> >> >>> >> PS. the Jenkins 'flex-falcon' job has been running nightly for more >>> >> than 2 months now, successfully building and testing both Falcon and >>> >> FalconJx... >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:35 PM, J. Terry Corbet (JIRA) >>> >> <j...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >> > J. Terry Corbet created FLEX-33634: >>> >> > -------------------------------------- >>> >> > >>> >> > Summary: Flex-Falcon >>> >> > Key: FLEX-33634 >>> >> > URL: >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33634 >>> >> > Project: Apache Flex >>> >> > Issue Type: Wish >>> >> > Components: Performance: Compiler >>> >> > Affects Versions: Apache Flex 4.11.0 >>> >> > Environment: The Desktop and the Tablet. >>> >> > Reporter: J. Terry Corbet >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > If this is not the right place for this request, please tell me where >>> to >>> >> make it. >>> >> > >>> >> > Alex says that the Falcon Compiler is successfully handling some large >>> >> test case he has. The notes on the Git page say that it is 'almost >>> >> production worthy'. >>> >> > >>> >> > The notes I find show that Erik expressly turned off the testing of >>> the >>> >> compiler so that Jenkins would be clean. >>> >> > >>> >> > OK, you got 4.10 out the door, great job. Now since it is a top >>> >> priority, please >>> >> > >>> >> > A. Turn on the nightly Falcon testing. >>> >> > B. Provide us with a nightly binary so we can help Alex test against >>> >> our requirements. >>> >> > >>> >> > I know that you are personally very excited about being able to get >>> out >>> >> from under Flex/Flash or any dependency except what a browser will >>> provide, >>> >> but we who have stayed with Flex for all these years are committed to >>> >> making our applications the best possible with the Adobe Integrated >>> >> Runtime. Every time you successfully compile for the JS environment, >>> >> please give us the same capability to compile for the devices on which >>> we >>> >> run. If you move one step forward on being able to generate JavaScript, >>> >> please gives us one step forward on being able to compile ActionScript. >>> >> > >>> >> > I think any Flex 4.11 Release Candidate that does not successfully >>> >> compile our applications with the new compiler should be voted down by >>> all >>> >> who own that privilege. Move to JavaScript as fast as the wind will >>> blow >>> >> you there, but please stop leaving us behind. >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > This message is automatically generated by JIRA. >>> >> > If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA >>> >> administrators >>> >> > For more information on JIRA, see: >>> >> http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Ix Multimedia Software >>> >> >>> >> Jan Luykenstraat 27 >>> >> 3521 VB Utrecht >>> >> >>> >> T. 06-51952295 >>> >> I. www.ixsoftware.nl >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ix Multimedia Software >>> >>> Jan Luykenstraat 27 >>> 3521 VB Utrecht >>> >>> T. 06-51952295 >>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl >>> > > > > -- > Ix Multimedia Software > > Jan Luykenstraat 27 > 3521 VB Utrecht > > T. 06-51952295 > I. www.ixsoftware.nl -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl
