This is really difficult, because I'm not sure what is supposed to work in the 
current implementation. I'm trying to reverse engineer how tables work when 
they don't really work. Trying to sift out what I don't understand from what 
simply doesn't work from what is poorly implemented is a huge pain.

I'm going to ramble a bit. I hope that things will become clearer to me as I 
ramble on… ;-)

If someone who understands how text flow in TLF is supposed to work would 
either confirm or correct me, I'd appreciate it.

Here's how I understand the way TLF works with parcels:

Each composition has a ParcelList which contains one or more parcels. Each 
ContainerController has one or more parcels in the ParcelList. Generally, there 
is one parcel per column. (If a ContainerController has more than one column, 
the composition of each column is done separately as a separate parcel.)

For normal text frames, this is all pretty straight-forward.

With tables things get a bit more muddled. Each table cell is in effect a 
separate composition area. If every composition area gets its own parcel, I 
guess this would mean that every cell in the table would get its own parcel. If 
I'm reading the code correctly, it's supposed to be doing this. I think another 
way to look at it, would be to look at each column of each table within a 
specific Container as a separate composition area (parcel) and position the 
text within that. I'm not sure this makes any sense, though. The more I'm 
looking at how parcels work (i.e. vj, etc.), the less this makes sense.

So, basically, every cell in the table would be a separate parcel, and these 
parcels need to be organized into rows and columns. Keeping track of the 
columns and the placement of the rows has some level of complexity. Adding 
header and footer rows to the mix should make it more interesting.

Here's what I'm not (yet) totally clear on (or even if it works right):
1) The logic of placing the table parcels relative to the container parcels. 
The way I see it, the table parcels should be arranged within the bounds of the 
column parcels of the containing container(s).
2) How the calculations of the parcel placement goes. This is especially true 
for tables that might span more than one parent parcel.
3) The placement of the table parcels relative to the container parcels they 
are contained within. (Should there be a separate ParcelList for table parcels, 
or should it be part of the main ParcelList?)
4) What I'm not clear on… ;-)

On Nov 28, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Harbs wrote:

> I'm back on this, and starting to make some (slow) progress.
> 
> I've started a Google Docs document to try to make some order out of the 
> chaos that is the current state of TLF Tables. This is just a place where I'm 
> jotting down my findings as I go and my thoughts on direction as I work on 
> this. I made the document publicly editable and would love input. If there's 
> anyone out there that has answers to the questions I'm posing, it would be 
> very helpful!
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sT0IAiMfIOBVgmo8wwF6ZZviuNFcW2bUfQoj0zDmSog/edit?usp=sharing
> 
> Harb
> 
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Harbs wrote:
> 
>> My first tests are not very encouraging…
>> 
>> Trying to compose the table results in this function returning null:
>>              static tlf_internal function beginFactoryCompose():SimpleCompose
>>              {
>>                      var rslt:SimpleCompose = _factoryComposer;
>>                      _factoryComposer = peekFactoryCompose();
>>                      _savedFactoryComposer = null;
>>                      return rslt;
>>              }
>> 
>> Looks like I need to the composition process...
>> FWIW, it made no difference whether I added the rows to a TableBodyElement 
>> or to the table directly.
>> 
>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Harbs,
>>> 
>>> I see code for Tables, but I'm not sure it is "officially" there.  Or even
>>> complete, or even working at a prototype-level.
>>> 
>>> So good luck with it.  I might be able to ask folks who used to work on it
>>> a few questions, but I'm pretty sure their memories of it are pretty dim
>>> by now.
>>> 
>>> -Alex
>>> 
>>> On 9/10/13 6:16 AM, "Harbs" <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I knew I was going to spend some real time on this one day, and that time
>>>> is coming really soonŠ
>>>> 
>>>> Before I dig in too deeply, what's the status on TLF Table support? I
>>>> know it's officially there, but I don't see any documentation on it --
>>>> not even the basics on how it's supposed to be used.
>>>> 
>>>> I fully expect to find bugs once I start really digging into it, but some
>>>> documentation (any) would be nice to get me started.
>>>> 
>>>> Looking at the source code, I see the following classes:
>>>> 
>>>> TableElement
>>>> TableBodyElement
>>>> TableColElement
>>>> TableRowElement
>>>> TableColGroupElement
>>>> TableDataCellElement
>>>> TableFormattedElement
>>>> 
>>>> I understand the structure like this:
>>>> 
>>>> * A TableElement is the top level element for any table
>>>> * All elements in a table inherit from TableFormattedElement
>>>> * The bottom level of a table which needs to contain one or more
>>>> ParagraphElements in a TableDataCellElement
>>>> * TableDataCellElements must reside within a TableRowElement
>>>> 
>>>> After this things get a bit fuzzier.
>>>> 
>>>> What is TableBodyElement used for?
>>>> How is TableColGroupElement and TableColElement used? (I assume they are
>>>> used for formatting table columns, but the details are not very clear to
>>>> me.)
>>>> What about header and footer rows? Is that supported yet?
>>>> Header and footer columns?
>>>> Is breaking tables across containers supported yet?
>>>> 
>>>> I have not started studying how to specify table formatting either. I'm
>>>> hoping that's obviousŠ
>>>> 
>>>> I'll try to add some documentation to the source code as things become
>>>> clearer to meŠ
>>>> 
>>>> Harbs
>>> 
>> 
> 

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